So I Think a Guy Just Quit Because of Me [Archive]

dvarapala

10-26-2022, 8:13pm

There's this one guy who works for my company who is what I call "deadwood" - he basically shows up and collects a paycheck but doesn't produce jack shit. Every day we have a status meeting and his reports on what he's accomplished are always vague mumbo-jumbo; he's always working on something but never actually finishes anything.

So the other day after one of these meetings his boss pulls me aside and asks me about this guy. I basically said that this guy is in way over his head, and he has absolutely no idea how to perform the task you have asked him to do. His boss agreed with me, and our conversation ended.

So today I found out the deadwood guy gave his notice and will be gone in less than a week. :leaving:

Murray

10-26-2022, 8:17pm

Hoping stories like this replace Friday 5

Louie Detroit

10-26-2022, 8:23pm

Nice, it's always fun to gloat on someone else's demise until your own comes around. :D

slewfoot

10-26-2022, 8:25pm

Well, I guess it was decent of your boss to let him resign. Avoids unemployment too.

99 pewtercoupe

10-26-2022, 8:27pm

Rodnok1

10-26-2022, 8:29pm

Only one so far? Rookie...
I'm responsible for many a person looking elsewhere for employment. I never whitewashed it when big boss asked me about someone as usually status reports I turned in would include fixing their shit and I would bill it according which then flagged it and started their downfall. Always about the Benjamins.

The_Dude

10-26-2022, 8:31pm

So, you ran him off

Rikki Z-06

10-26-2022, 8:33pm

So, you ran him off

Thought that was your job :yesnod:

The_Dude

10-26-2022, 8:36pm

Thought that was your job :yesnod:

Now its reading Natural News

dvarapala

10-26-2022, 8:44pm

So, you ran him off

Thought that was your job :yesnod:

He's clearly not doing it well. I need to talk to his boss... :D

dvarapala

10-26-2022, 8:45pm

Only one so far? Rookie...

That boss hasn't asked me about any of the other deadwood yet. :D

dvarapala

10-26-2022, 8:45pm

Now its reading Natural News

You actually read that shit? :shrug:

Anjdog2003

10-26-2022, 8:46pm

Thought that was your job :yesnod:

If a female yes.

The_Dude

10-26-2022, 8:47pm

You actually read that shit? :shrug:

Just the headlines

MikeB

10-26-2022, 8:50pm

Hoping stories like this replace Friday 5

Harsh.

Bur accurate. :seasix:

Big bob

10-26-2022, 8:50pm

That boss hasn't asked me about any of the other deadwood yet. :D

That is because your boss is asking him about you.:rofl:

Torqaholic

10-26-2022, 9:29pm

That boss hasn't asked me about any of the other deadwood yet. :D

Be careful about brown nosers. They get away with not pulling their weight because the boss likes them. In other words the boss is blind to their deficiencies and pointing them out could backfire on you.

Egnalf

10-26-2022, 9:30pm

smart. in this day and age with so many willing applicants, its better to run lower tier workers off than to mentor them to be better. everyone loves the added workload too, since filling the position will be something that takes no effort or cost.

TheHammer

10-26-2022, 9:40pm

you're a dick

Taurus

10-26-2022, 9:45pm

Well, I guess it was decent of your boss to let him resign. Avoids unemployment too.

Doesn't matter, can't collect unemployment unless you lost your job by no fault of your own. If he got fired rather than quit he still would not be eligible for benefits.

Yadkin

10-26-2022, 9:50pm

Back in the day I became known as the manager of difficult employees. After getting dismissed by older managers, they ended up with me. There was only one I could not save. The guy was naturally dishonest. After mentoring for about a month my boss asked me for an evaluation. The problem guy was gone within the hour.

Burro (He/Haw)

10-27-2022, 4:29am

Let me understand this. Deadwood’s boss pulled you aside to ask about Deadwood. Deadwood isn’t one of your direct reports. Do you have direct reports? Are you and Deadwood’s boss on equal footing on an org chart or are you just an individual contributor who was solicited for his opinion on a coworker by that coworkers boss?

Iron Chef

10-27-2022, 5:15am

I've spent most of my life as a contractor in the Aerospace Industry. I have never, nor would I ever rat out or offer a review on someone even if asked, unless their work habits are so bad that it's really having an impact on what I or the group I'm in is doing, or if I saw something very egregious (e.g. stealing company property). Our industry is too small and word gets around about people who do that.

That said, contractors are easily dispensable and we're expected to hit the bricks running and perform at a high level to justify our salaries. So if a person isn't competent or pulling their weight, they're usually shown the door fairly quickly. Word gets around about those people too.

Direct reports, however, are not our problem.

Torqaholic

10-27-2022, 5:19am

Don Rickles

10-27-2022, 7:05am

Few deadwoods here, you could NARC on?

Tikiman

10-27-2022, 7:49am

Should be out the door same day. I have worked for companies that if you gave notice (especially in a less than star performer role) you had an escort back to your desk, clean out all personnel belongings and out the door Too many opportunities to cause problems with other employees or customers

Last time I gave a two week notice, the bosses got together and gave me a secure VPN in my house and made me work for three more years from home.

Torqaholic

10-27-2022, 8:07am

Management knew I was going to retire two months in advance. They weren't happy about it but had nobody to blame but themselves. Wasn't a surprise for them but they did nothing special such as interviewing a replacement. I suppose you could count forcing me to take a surprise drug test as something special though. First time I ever knew of them doing that to anyone. Pretty strange, just wish I could have seen the look on their faces when they realized they couldn't cheat me out of my pension a month before retirement. Scum bags.

Aerovette

10-27-2022, 9:22am

you're a dick

I guess we know who resigned.

:Jeff '79:

Vandelay Industries

10-27-2022, 9:36am

So I Think a Guy Just Quit Because of Me

Do Big Bob next.:yesnod:

dvarapala

10-27-2022, 10:23am

Be careful about brown nosers. They get away with not pulling their weight because the boss likes them. In other words the boss is blind to their deficiencies and pointing them out could backfire on you.

Theoretically yes. Fortunately, this particular boss' boss (who is also my boss) is also my friend of over 20 years. Also, I am extremely competent at my job - there is definitely nobody currently on staff would could even come close to doinug what I do. Thus the chances of my being fired - especially for a bullshit reason like office politics - are about as slim as the chances that Porter will STFU. :D

GTOguy

10-27-2022, 10:24am

I've had co-workers like that. How do they even do it?

That said, I am so glad I am done with working anymore. Retirement is MUCH better.

My old employer contacted me to come back as a 'retired annuitant' because they are hurting for qualified people.
I declined.

dvarapala

10-27-2022, 10:29am

Do Big Bob next.:yesnod:

I was gonna drop the hammer on TheHammer. :lol:

dvarapala

10-27-2022, 10:32am

Do you have direct reports?

No.

Are you and Deadwood’s boss on equal footing on an org chart

No.

are you just an individual contributor who was solicited for his opinion on a coworker by that coworkers boss?

Yes.

Onebadcad

10-27-2022, 10:35am

Doesn't matter, can't collect unemployment unless you lost your job by no fault of your own. If he got fired rather than quit he still would not be eligible for benefits.

In my 15 years in corporate management, I had one employee file that was not deserving.

The employer was terminated due to a rage of about 15+ minutes, they refused to leave the premises, their behavior was insane, throwing shit, cursing out the manager repeatedly, saying the company sucked, in front of 20 employees. The employee only left when the manager started calling the local police.

FL unemployment mediator allowed her to collect, as said it was a single incident that should have been dismissed after counseling, even though the employee said ten times during the rage she would never work here again.

Pretty damn certain almost every state has a few idiots in their unemployment department that will always side with employees.

The_Dude

10-27-2022, 10:38am

At my last job, we did peer reviews. I don't know about my coworkers, but I never gave anything less than a stellar review. After a while they gave up on the peer reviews.

dvarapala

10-27-2022, 10:45am

I have never, nor would I ever rat out or offer a review on someone even if asked, unless their work habits are so bad that it's really having an impact on what I or the group I'm in is doing. That said, contractors are easily dispensable and we're expected to hit the bricks running and perform at a high level to justify our salaries. So if a person isn't competent or pulling their weight, they're usually shown the door fairly quickly.

Which is as it should be, whether you're a contractor or a direct employee. You're being paid to do a job; if you can't or won't actually do the job, then you shouldn't be taking your employer's money. :yesnod:

Upper management at this company is always asking us to "think like an owner" and "spend the money as if it were your own" and those sorts of things. So I took them at their word. :yesnod:

Maybe the guys who say I'm a dick for telling the truth will let this guy come and work for them and take their money without producing anything? :shrug:

Egnalf

10-27-2022, 11:33am

Doesn't matter, can't collect unemployment unless you lost your job by no fault of your own. If he got fired rather than quit he still would not be eligible for benefits.

Cute sentiment, but not true. This is only what they want you to believe. fired a guy who abandoned his job, went to florida for two weeks, and left our company supplied vehicle parked somewhere with the keys in it and wouldn't tell me where until I called the cops and sent them to his house.

He lived in pa, and worked in pa. He filed claims in Pa AND Nj. I fought them both. went through arbitration hearings(via phone), and even told each state that he was double dipping. Those ****ers still paid his sorry ass. it was then I realized, its not even worth sending the stupid paperwork back when they file a claim.

Torqaholic

10-27-2022, 11:57am

... Also, I am extremely competent at my job - there is definitely nobody currently on staff would could even come close to doinug what I do. ..

I used to think along those lines too. A year after leaving I began to wonder if my leaving had anything to do with them no longer existing as a company. Nawwww, couldn't be, I was only responsible for keeping the place running 25% of the time.

Burro (He/Haw)

10-27-2022, 12:19pm

Which is as it should be, whether you're a contractor or a direct employee. You're being paid to do a job; if you can't or won't actually do the job, then you shouldn't be taking your employer's money. :yesnod:

Upper management at this company is always asking us to "think like an owner" and "spend the money as if it were your own" and those sorts of things. So I took them at their word. :yesnod:

Maybe the guys who say I'm a dick for telling the truth will let this guy come and work for them and take their money without producing anything? :shrug:

You didn’t answer my question.

Sorry. I missed your response.

You have absolutely NO business running your mouth about a coworker to your boss. WTF kind of shit-show do you work at? It’s your bosses responsibility to know what his people are doing. The fact he’s putting you in a position to tattle on a coworker makes him a POS. And you’re even a BIGGER POS for doing it. You were hired to do a job. Do your job and leave supervising up to the guy paid to supervise.

UN****INGREAL.

Onebadcad

10-27-2022, 1:42pm

Cute sentiment, but not true. This is only what they want you to believe. fired a guy who abandoned his job, went to florida for two weeks, and left our company supplied vehicle parked somewhere with the keys in it and wouldn't tell me where until I called the cops and sent them to his house.

He lived in pa, and worked in pa. He filed claims in Pa AND Nj. I fought them both. went through arbitration hearings(via phone), and even told each state that he was double dipping. Those ****ers still paid his sorry ass. it was then I realized, its not even worth sending the stupid paperwork back when they file a claim.

Sounds very similar to my post, you can be 100% correct and follow company policies, and the fired party will get the benefits regardless of their actions.

I remember an incident where a manager, working late by himself in the office one night, acted sexually aggresively towards a cleaning crew employee. The cleaner advised his company instead of filing a police report--there may have been a resident status issue.
The manager admitted to it and was terminated, but his company, to save face I presume, used his sales numbers as this reason; I believe the manager left peacefully with this agreement, as he was married and wanted it squashed.

He filed a claim with unemployment a few days later, stated in the claim his sales performance had not been addressed previously with an oral or written warning,,, he got his monies.

dvarapala

10-27-2022, 2:07pm

You have absolutely NO business running your mouth about a coworker to your boss. WTF kind of shit-show do you work at? It’s your bosses responsibility to know what his people are doing. The fact he’s putting you in a position to tattle on a coworker makes him a POS. And you’re even a BIGGER POS for doing it. You were hired to do a job. Do your job and leave supervising up to the guy paid to supervise.

UN****INGREAL.

So you're saying that deadwood's boss is an incompetent **** who doesn't know what his minions are doing, but because he asked me a question and I answered honestly that makes me the bad guy? :shrug:

I suppose if you had some incompetent coworkers who were wasting your company's money and ultimately impacting your livelihood you would just keep silent and watch the company go bankrupt? :shrug:

Mike Mercury

10-27-2022, 2:15pm

So I Think a Guy Just Quit Because of Me

that's a good way to get your car keyed
out in the parking lot.

just sayin...

boss is an incompetent ****...

with an Art degree.

Burro (He/Haw)

10-27-2022, 2:28pm

So you're saying that deadwood's boss is an incompetent **** who doesn't know what his minions are doing, but because he asked me a question and I answered honestly that makes me the bad guy? :shrug:

I suppose if you had some incompetent coworkers who were wasting your company's money and ultimately impacting your livelihood you would just keep silent and watch the company go bankrupt? :shrug:

I watch my own bobber. Never in a million billion years would I tattle on a coworker for being incompetent. The very fact he asked your opinion should have told you he was seeing poor performance.

It’s not your responsibility to save the company. THEY hired Deadwood, shame on them. But shame on you even further. But hey! Congratulations! You’re now the bosses bitch who he can tap for performance reviews. Nice work! Snitch.

GTOguy

10-27-2022, 2:33pm

I watch my own bobber. Never in a million billion years would I tattle on a coworker for being incompetent. The very fact he asked your opinion should have told you he was seeing poor performance.

It’s not your responsibility to save the company. THEY hired Deadwood, shame on them. But shame on you even further. But hey! Congratulations! You’re now the bosses bitch who he can tap for performance reviews. Nice work! Snitch.
:omg::omg::omg::omg::omg:

Ho Lee Schidts!

Old Varla DeParla gettin' the Vette Barn Beatdown!

:waiting:

Burro (He/Haw)

10-27-2022, 2:37pm

I suppose if you had some incompetent coworkers who were wasting your company's money and ultimately impacting your livelihood you would just keep silent and watch the company go bankrupt? :shrug:

Don't try and rationalize your behavior. You're a snitch. Own it.

mrvette

10-27-2022, 2:47pm

Reading all this brings back some NICE and GROSSLY BAD memories from a job I had in the early 80's, main job was field service tech, flipping all over this nation fixing/diagnosing/installing walk through metal detectors for airports down through BIG TIME PRISONS......
AND also filling in with the EE staff designing and building prototypes for custom installs, and then flipping all over making sure the projects went well....

It was interesting work, I really liked the job, and went into the engineering staff which opened my EYES as to just how BAD some of the engineers were, and so the new hire head of engineering staff call me into the office, and I thought I was going to get fired, but instead he was asking ME about the competency of the EE I was working with, ME just a ~15 year experienced head tech/shop manager for a TV/Appliance dealer.....but when interviewed I guess the company owner who was a PHD EE was impressed with my upper lever knowledge obtained as an electronic hobbyist.....so one of my bosses SO along with others, I guess I sealed the case, that EE was fired for lack of knowledge/theory.....and they hired a guy who actually knew something and we got along really well, designed a whole new revission of the product line and then the owner sold the entire company south to another outfit, but me and a few other assembly folks and EE's were retained to start making a super complicated product at had a sales price of close to a mega buck.....took a while to take a couple of vans full of parts and distill them down to an operating system......I really enjoyed that company, but the move to other side of town killed the employment, so back into the TV business after that 5 year stint.....

I remember the VP as head of sales, he and I got along pretty well.....and another VP who was a friend of the owner, and getting called into his office once, which in that company, typically meant it was to be FIRED on the spot....but I was complimented instead, to everyone's surprise.....of course I knew nothing about that shituation going in.....:confused5::dance:

dvarapala

10-27-2022, 2:48pm

that's a good way to get your car keyed
out in the parking lot.

just sayin...

The only way deadwood would ever know I said anything is if deadwood's boss told him, so if it happens I'll know exactly who to blame. ;)

I watch my own bobber. Never in a million billion years would I tattle on a coworker for being incompetent. The very fact he asked your opinion should have told you he was seeing poor performance.

So when deadwood's boss came to you and asked you a direct question you would lie? How about if you get one of those "360 degree" evaluations where management asks a workers peers for their input? Would you lie on that as well? :shrug:

Don't try and rationalize your behavior. You're a snitch. Own it.

I may be a "snitch" but I'm not a liar. :nono:

UniqueDoug

10-27-2022, 2:51pm

You didn’t answer my question.

Sorry. I missed your response.

You have absolutely NO business running your mouth about a coworker to your boss. WTF kind of shit-show do you work at? It’s your bosses responsibility to know what his people are doing. The fact he’s putting you in a position to tattle on a coworker makes him a POS. And you’re even a BIGGER POS for doing it. You were hired to do a job. Do your job and leave supervising up to the guy paid to supervise.

UN****INGREAL.

Exactly how do you feel? lol

Aerovette

10-27-2022, 3:06pm

I don't go and rat out anyone BUT if I am asked a direct question, I'll tell the truth. Management can't be everywhere all the time and having been in management, I also know there are levels of communication that bosses are not privy to. I have been asked my opinion about a LOT of coworkers. Questions are asked, answers are given. Imagine the company has a thief in the ranks and I know who it is. If I'm asked, I'll tell what I know. Otherwise, I'm a willing participant in the theft. Deadwoods are company thieves. They are stealing pay that they did not earn.

Snitch - Mr Boss, do you know that Jim is stealing products from the company?

Vs

Hey Aero, any idea where our missing inventory is going?

Stealing money from the company is stealing money from ME.

Gordon Shumway

10-27-2022, 3:45pm

I watch my own bobber. Never in a million billion years would I tattle on a coworker for being incompetent. The very fact he asked your opinion should have told you he was seeing poor performance.

It’s not your responsibility to save the company. THEY hired Deadwood, shame on them. But shame on you even further. But hey! Congratulations! You’re now the bosses bitch who he can tap for performance reviews. Nice work! Snitch.

It's even worse than that. In my experience if someone asks out of rank personnel questions they are looking for someone to blame if it goes badly. :Jeff '79:

Murray

10-27-2022, 3:59pm

I’m with the basement dwelling walking EV commercial.

“Hey boss, got a minute?”….. total dick move.

What he did was answer a question with honesty. BTDT

The guy with the hose up his ass about the way it was handled is obviously one of those types when coming back from vacation drops by HR to let them know he had the sniffles for 2 days so it’s sick time….not vacation time.

Toilet paper stealing P’sOS are the worst

Burro (He/Haw)

10-27-2022, 4:10pm

So when deadwood's boss came to you and asked you a direct question you would lie? How about if you get one of those "360 degree" evaluations where management asks a workers peers for their input? Would you lie on that as well? :shrug:

You don't have to lie. Respectfully decline.

If Deadwood's boss approached me regarding Deadwood's performance, I'd take the ****ing high road EVERY TIME as opposed to being a snitch. I swear on my fathers grave.

"Listen. You're asking me for what's essentially a performance review of one of your employees. It's not my place to offer this information. Please try and understand this from my point of view."

Your boss respects you for not being a ****in' snitch and you're off the hook for *possibly* getting this guy sacked. Furthermore you have NO idea what Deadwood is dealing with in his personal life. Maybe something is behind his poor performance. Perhaps his plate is full with serious personal matters? You don't know.

But hey! He's dead weight and you saved the company! :seasix:

Burro (He/Haw)

10-27-2022, 4:41pm

Snitch - Mr Boss, do you know that Jim is stealing products from the company?

Vs

Hey Aero, any idea where our missing inventory is going?

Stealing money from the company is stealing money from ME.
Only this isn't walking out with a computer monitor for example. This is performance based. You'll probably argue bad performance is the same as walking out with a monitor And I suppose at *some*level it probably is.

Now tell me you've never had a water cooler conversation run a little long or stretched out a lunch because you had to run to the bank. That's stealing money from the company too. (I guess)

Anjdog2003

10-27-2022, 4:56pm

I'am going to tell Need-A-Vette to Ban your ass. I'am tired of just being a poster here. :yesnod:

Vette40th

10-27-2022, 4:56pm

Was his name Brandon?

Aerovette

10-27-2022, 10:47pm

Only this isn't walking out with a computer monitor for example. This is performance based. You'll probably argue bad performance is the same as walking out with a monitor And I suppose at *some*level it probably is.

Now tell me you've never had a water cooler conversation run a little long or stretched out a lunch because you had to run to the bank. That's stealing money from the company too. (I guess)

I do have conversations during the day. I also have taken a long lunch. I also don't get compensated for overtime. I also am on calls with customers at all hours of the night and put in 50 hours minimum each week. They are getting from me, everything they pay for and that includes my protection from people that do not have the company's best interest in mind. We are all there for the company and that support of the company is compensated monetarily. No company= no employees. No employees = no company. It is a mutually beneficial partnership and when an employee is not upholding their end of the partnership, they are damaging the company and putting MY compensation in jeopardy. I'm not going to look the other way and I'm not going to cover for them. You know why no one asks about me? Because I give them no reason to. Keep your nose clean and you have no reason to be the topic of conversation. Deadwood was being discussed because Deadwood put a target on his own back. As a manager I had to let people go and more than once I have said, "I didn't fire you. You fired yourself. I'm just doing the paperwork".

Yadkin

10-28-2022, 7:13am

You don't have to lie. Respectfully decline.

If Deadwood's boss approached me regarding Deadwood's performance, I'd take the ****ing high road EVERY TIME as opposed to being a snitch.

"Snitch" is a word that you learned in elementary school. In real life, you owe your employer more than you can produce. So does Deadwood.

If Deadwood isn't producing, you owe it to your employer to let him know.

Burro (He/Haw)

10-28-2022, 7:56am

"Snitch" is a word that you learned in elementary school. In real life, you owe your employer more than you can produce. So does Deadwood.

If Deadwood isn't producing, you owe it to your employer to let him know.

Yes. Snitch. And the fact you disagree speaks loudly to your character- or lack thereof.

Carry on snitch.

(You’ve got a bit of a rep for running to moderation if memory serves)

Aerovette

10-28-2022, 8:59am

By your definition of snitch, I guess it's a badge I'll wear. There are at least 8-9 hours of the day where my allegiance is to my employer. Like a soldier's allegiance is to country. And just the same when the country is done with the soldier, and they are cast off, I am aware I am disposable, but while I have the responsibility, I will fully support the cause. It has served me well since I was 15 years old.

No one gets anyone fired or pushed out. They do it to themselves.

Aerovette

10-28-2022, 9:22am

SnikPlosskin

10-28-2022, 9:38am

Thank god I’ve never had a boss.

Vandelay Industries

10-28-2022, 9:42am

Thank god I’ve never had a boss.

[Mrs.Snik] :toetap::toetap::toetap: [/Mrs.Snik]

dvarapala

10-28-2022, 9:50am

You don't have to lie. Respectfully decline.

If Deadwood's boss approached me regarding Deadwood's performance, I'd take the ****ing high road EVERY TIME as opposed to being a snitch. I swear on my fathers grave.

Well you certainly subscribe to a unique code of conduct. Maybe that's even appropriate if you work for a street gang, but I highly doubt that the management or investors of regular companies would agree with it.

Yadkin

10-28-2022, 10:47am

Yes. Snitch. And the fact you disagree speaks loudly to your character- or lack thereof.

Carry on snitch.

(You’ve got a bit of a rep for running to moderation if memory serves)

You memory doesn't serve. That speaks to your lack of character. :Jeff '79:

GTOguy

10-28-2022, 10:52am

You memory doesn't serve. That speaks to your lack of character. :Jeff '79:

Agreed. Yadkin is a Lone Wolf. A Sole Agent. Independent. He don't need no mods. He doesn't need anybody.
That's the main reason he's so badass.
He's as likely to complain to a moderator as I am...which is never.

Free Speech, Baby! :dance:

Louie Detroit

10-28-2022, 11:03am

Agreed. Yadkin is a Lone Wolf. A Sole Agent. Independent. He don't need no mods. He doesn't need anybody.
That's the main reason he's so badass.
He's as likely to complain to a moderator as I am...which is never.

Free Speech, Baby! :dance:

Enough blather already, your room rental with Yaddie is for half an hour only and the meters running.

Burro (He/Haw)

10-28-2022, 11:36am

Well you certainly subscribe to a unique code of conduct. Maybe that's even appropriate if you work for a street gang, but I highly doubt that the management or investors of regular companies would agree with it.

Actually, I work for a 'regular company' with board of directors CEO, the whole nine. And my boss does his job well. He knows who produces, who produces quickly, who's screwing the pooch and who simply works at a slower pace. He's also smart enough NOT to potentially pit one coworker against another by soliciting the opinions of others with regards to performance. Why? BECAUSE HE DOES HIS ****ING JOB :yesnod:.

Director to Director; OK.
Director to Manager: OK.
Manager to Manager; OK.
Manager to Supervisor. OK.
Supervisor to Direct Report regarding a different Direct Report? Unconscionable.

You sir are not in the management chain. Watch your own bobber.

Aerovette

10-28-2022, 11:42am

Actually, I work for a 'regular company' with board of directors CEO, the whole nine. And my boss does his job well. He knows who produces, who produces quickly, who's screwing the pooch and who simply works at a slower pace. He's also smart enough NOT to potentially pit one coworker against another by soliciting the opinions of others with regards to performance. Why? BECAUSE HE DOES HIS ****ING JOB :yesnod:.

Director to Director; OK.
Director to Manager: OK.
Manager to Manager; OK.
Manager to Supervisor. OK.
Supervisor to Direct Report regarding a different Direct Report? Unconscionable.

You sir are not in the management chain. Watch your own bobber.

Would not hire.