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Grey Ghost
05-24-2022, 4:26pm
Seem to happen more often (to me) when the Dem's are in office.
Aerovette
05-24-2022, 4:30pm
Seem to happen more often (to me) when the Dem's are in office.
In Beto's backyard. He'll start yapping about it in 3...2...1...
Yeah, new tinfoil in the hat tells me NOTHING happens by chance or randomly anymore. If it wasn't by design and planned, it will at least be used by the left.
Without details I'm going with "assault rifle".
Seem to happen more often (to me) when the Dem's are in office.
I got my suspicions on those events. I can remember back years ago when a couple of our alphabet agencies did mind control stuff with drugs (LSD was a big one) I would not put it past the demos!
Democrats know they are likely to lose their ass in the upcoming elections so they use plan B and willing to sacrifice all of our lives if that is what it takes.
as soon as they wake Joe up, he'll be handed a sheet calling for gun control.
Aerovette
05-24-2022, 5:07pm
Gavin Newcum is already shooting his mouth off.
if only we had about 17,000,000 concealed carry permit holders, men and women who have gone thru background checks, who have demonstrated some proficiency of safe handling of firearm, who would be more than willing to volunteer to protect children at local schools.....
https://www.gunstocarry.com/concealed-carry-statistics/#numbers
Aerovette
05-24-2022, 5:10pm
I thought we were going to arm teachers?
Actually didn't the Left say we were going to FORCE teachers to be armed? :Jeff '79:
Aerovette
05-24-2022, 5:20pm
For me, the first sign that it is a staged event is how quickly the FBI shows up.
Jeff '79
05-24-2022, 5:29pm
Great to see Tejas can handle it's own.
Another 15 families destroyed.
Thank God it wasn't one of our own.:sadangel:
Learpilot
05-24-2022, 5:35pm
Shooter was a person of color
Aerovette
05-24-2022, 5:37pm
Shooter was a person of color
Well then it is DEFINITELY the gun's fault.
Great to see Tejas can handle it's own.
Another 15 families destroyed.
Thank God it wasn't one of our own.:sadangel:
We are all the children of God.
Great to see Tejas can handle it's own.
Another 15 families destroyed.
Thank God it wasn't one of our own.:sadangel:
:confused5::confused5::confused5:
Shooter was a person of color
Wow, long way from Chicago!
Democrats know they are likely to lose their ass in the upcoming elections so they use plan B and willing to sacrifice all of our lives if that is what it takes.
They cry out as they strike you.
Jeff '79
05-24-2022, 5:54pm
They cry out as they strike you.
Really ??:wtf:
We have a mental health crisis in America due to the changes in our involuntary commitment laws being changed. The rest of the world followed us then recognized the issue an changed their involuntarily commitment laws to make sure people with violent tendencies got the treatment they needed but recap used to accept.
Blademaker
05-24-2022, 6:14pm
Democrats know they are likely to lose their ass in the upcoming elections so they use plan B and willing to sacrifice all of our lives if that is what it takes.
THIS :seasix:
Dan Dlabay
05-24-2022, 6:23pm
The democrats will stop a nothing in order to try and steal another election
We have a mental health crisis in America due to the changes in our involuntary commitment laws being changed. The rest of the world followed us then recognized the issue an changed their involuntarily commitment laws to make sure people with violent tendencies got the treatment they needed but recap used to accept.
Cain killed Abel because he was mad at him.
Learpilot
05-24-2022, 6:38pm
The democrats will stop a nothing in order to try and steal another election
This ^^^^^^^
slewfoot
05-24-2022, 6:42pm
Just when guns, ammo supplies and costs stabilized, here we go again. Politicians will get on the gun control wagon; everyone will panic and empty the shelves again and drive-up prices for no fkn reason.
The_Dude
05-24-2022, 6:43pm
Seem to happen more often (to me) when the Dem's are in office.
I don't know man. We just have a lot of them in general. Here are just some of the more deadlier ones from recent history.
In October 2017, a gunman shot and killed nearly 60 people at a music festival in Las Vegas.
In November 2017, 26 people were killed at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.
In February 2018, 17 people were killed at a high school in Parkland, Florida.
In May 2018, 10 people were killed at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas.
In October 2018, 11 people were killed at a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
In November 2018, 12 people were killed at a restaurant in Thousand Oaks, California.
In May 2019, 12 people were shot and killed at an office building in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
In August 2019, 22 people were killed at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.
slewfoot
05-24-2022, 6:48pm
For me, the first sign that it is a staged event is how quickly the FBI shows up.
I don't believe it was stage. Why would Gov Abbott be allover the news? I can drive around Albuquerque for 2 hours and maybe pass a couple cops. When there is an officer involved shooting, I don't know where they've been hiding but they come out like cockroaches.
Two weeks ago I left the house on the way to the store- nothing. Coming home a half hour later, a carjacking blocked my route. Must have been 25 cop cars
I don't believe it was stage. I can drive around Albuquerque for 2 hours and maybe pass a couple cops. When there is an officer involved shooting, I don't know where they've been hiding but they come out like cockroaches.
Two weeks ago I left the house on the way to the store- nothing. Coming home a half hour later, a carjacking blocked my route. Must have been 25 cop cars
there are about 48,000 concealed carry permit holders in NM (last data was 2017), so about 2% overall. i'd just as soon not have to be a first responder, but i'm armed and carry a trauma kit in the car/truck.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/nm-gun-laws/
Burro (He/Haw)
05-24-2022, 7:00pm
Democrats know they are likely to lose their ass in the upcoming elections so they use plan B and willing to sacrifice all of our lives if that is what it takes.
Just so I understand you correctly; are you suggesting this shooting was orchestrated by a political party to curry favor with voters?
BRUIZER
05-24-2022, 7:05pm
When you preach hate and divisive rhetoric 24/7 to the gullible masses, what do you think will eventually happen?
slewfoot
05-24-2022, 7:06pm
Just so I understand you correctly; are you suggesting this shooting was orchestrated by a political party to curry favor with voters?
:rofl: Yes, you understand this correctly. I don't buy it because Trump has not come out yet claiming "FAKE NEWS!"
We have a mental health crisis in America due to the changes in our involuntary commitment laws being changed. The rest of the world followed us then recognized the issue an changed their involuntarily commitment laws to make sure people with violent tendencies got the treatment they needed but recap used to accept.
From 4chan, apparently before the kid's social media accounts were scrubbed:
https://media.patriots.win/post/kX7yghkqU4mq.png
Does this look like a mental health crisis?
Louie Detroit
05-24-2022, 7:44pm
From 4chan, apparently before the kid's social media accounts were scrubbed:
https://media.patriots.win/post/kX7yghkqU4mq.png
Does this look like a mental health crisis?
It looks like the consequences of a democrat/yoon-yun run school system.
Aerovette
05-24-2022, 7:49pm
I don't believe it was stage. Why would Gov Abbott be allover the news? I can drive around Albuquerque for 2 hours and maybe pass a couple cops. When there is an officer involved shooting, I don't know where they've been hiding but they come out like cockroaches.
Two weeks ago I left the house on the way to the store- nothing. Coming home a half hour later, a carjacking blocked my route. Must have been 25 cop cars
I never said Abbott had anything to do with it. These are FEDERAL agendas being propped up by these incidents.
Vet4jdc
05-24-2022, 7:53pm
as soon as they wake Joe up, he'll be handed a sheet calling for gun control.
Right on time
JRD77VET
05-24-2022, 8:22pm
Right on time
Any time a mass shooting occurs, eliminate the threat with extreme use of force. the only way they leave the scene is in a body bag.
NEVER mention the shooter's name ( except in any court actions but not in public)
They ( the law enforcement agencies) know who 99.99% of these loose cannons are. Bring back the mental hospitals and lock them up. They have the social media account documenting their behavior.
From 4chan, apparently before the kid's social media accounts were scrubbed:
https://media.patriots.win/post/kX7yghkqU4mq.png
Does this look like a mental health crisis?
If true watch how fast the MSM ignore this.
MEANZ06
05-24-2022, 8:56pm
Any time a mass shooting occurs, eliminate the threat with extreme use of force. the only way they leave the scene is in a body bag.
NEVER mention the shooter's name ( except in any court actions but not in public)
They ( the law enforcement agencies) know who 99.99% of these loose cannons are. Bring back the mental hospitals and lock them up. They have the social media account documenting their behavior.
:yesnod:
Loco Vette
05-24-2022, 9:28pm
Great to see Tejas can handle it's own.
Another 15 families destroyed.
Thank God it wasn't one of our own.:sadangel:
Funny how I didn't see you blaming NYC gun control laws for failing to "handle their own" a bit back on that subway thing. Missed an agenda point or two to get your attention?
ZipZap
05-24-2022, 10:04pm
Still so little info.
I want to see his parents.
I want to know how he acquired firearms.
I want to know if there was any motive besides psychosis.
I'm just glad the POS is dead. Sounds like a Border Control sniper plinked him. If so, give that person a raise.
Aerovette
05-24-2022, 10:29pm
This is the REAL problem.
What country has the highest recidivism rate?
The United States
The United States has some of the highest recidivism rates in the world. According to the National Institute of Justice, almost 44% of criminals released return before the first year out of prison.
Put them away, leave them to rot. If you commit an armed robbery, you get a minimum 50 years and you will most likely, and hopefully DIE in prison, as you should. If you accompany an armed robber, you get the same sentence.
If the weapon is actually FIRED during the robbery, you get another 25 years.
There HAS TO BE accountability. There has to be REPERCUSSIONS.
Jail/prison doors need not ever open. There is NO rehabilitation. There should be no rehabilitation. Choose wisely. Politicians do not want to solve the problem, they only want to place blame because THEN they get to point fingers while they campaign.
Olustee bus
05-25-2022, 2:35am
Just so I understand you correctly; are you suggesting this shooting was orchestrated by a political party to curry favor with voters?
Yeah, I mean, have we lost our ever loving mind?
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 5:19am
Just so I understand you correctly; are you suggesting this shooting was orchestrated by a political party to curry favor with voters?
Thats like saying The Klintons have had people killed because they turned against them................................oh wait
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 5:30am
Great to see Tejas can handle it's own.
Another 15 families destroyed.
Thank God it wasn't one of our own.:sadangel:
There were families destroyed when the man in Wisconsin drove his truck through the people in the Christmas Parade.We will have to outlaw motor vehicles.
This is the REAL problem.
What country has the highest recidivism rate?
The United States
The United States has some of the highest recidivism rates in the world. According to the National Institute of Justice, almost 44% of criminals released return before the first year out of prison.
Put them away, leave them to rot. If you commit an armed robbery, you get a minimum 50 years and you will most likely, and hopefully DIE in prison, as you should. If you accompany an armed robber, you get the same sentence.
If the weapon is actually FIRED during the robbery, you get another 25 years.
There HAS TO BE accountability. There has to be REPERCUSSIONS.
Jail/prison doors need not ever open. There is NO rehabilitation. There should be no rehabilitation. Choose wisely. Politicians do not want to solve the problem, they only want to place blame because THEN they get to point fingers while they campaign.
Bring back public executions for violent crime. :yesnod:
Just so I understand you correctly; are you suggesting this shooting was orchestrated by a political party to curry favor with voters?
Absolutely, and this is not the first time ... or the last
StaticCling
05-25-2022, 6:21am
Google knife attacks in China, United Kingdom etc.
It's NOT the weapon...
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 6:26am
Absolutely, and this is not the first time ... or the last
this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:seasix:
Burro (He/Haw)
05-25-2022, 6:57am
Absolutely, and this is not the first time ... or the last
Explain how you get from point A to point B on this theory. Be specific. (Victims are easy the schools are full of them)
Explain how you get from point A to point B on this theory. Be specific. (Victims are easy the schools are full of them)
Easy. These psychos are usually "known" to the FBI beforehand. That's code for, they're MK Ultra type time bombs that the deep state can set off, at will. I'll remind you of the Garland, TX shooter who went to shoot up the "Draw Mohammed Contest." He was not only known to the FBI, he had FBI agents right behind him who had just got done telling the crazed Muslim gunman to"tear up Texas." Is that specific enough for you? What do YOU think that means? His handlers were there to document the carnage.
These are people who will execute your whole family and your dog on a remote mountainside because you refused to inform to them, and people who will immolate dozens of women and children on live TV. Do you think people who will do this won't use mentally ill Americans as patsies, just like the Muslims do? The Muslims get their mentally ill to strap on those suicide vests and blow up markets. The FBI gets them to shoot up schools.
Now, of course I don't think every mass shooting situation is a set up, but I do believe that some are.
Tinfoil hat, out.
Edit: I'll also ask you to recall the "Gov. Whitmer kidnap plot!" Turns out that 8 of the 12 "plotters" were FBI agents or contractors, with only 4 patsies, who managed to be found innocent (two hung the jury) BECAUSE they proved the FBI set the whole damned thing up. Do you think a govt. agency that is willing to set up innocent Americans for something so hare-brained isn't doing other, much MORE malevolent shit?
When you preach hate and divisive rhetoric 24/7 to the gullible masses, what do you think will eventually happen?
This ^ X 1000.
I’d add there are seemingly endless second order consequences related to government maleficence of every sort. From offshoring our manufacturing to flooding our Nation with foreigners to welfare checks, etc.
Certainly appears to be intentional at this point, at least from my perspective. “From my cold dead hands” :yesnod:
https://media.patriots.win/post/13sXpunz12Y9.jpeg
So, to recap, this sexually abused homo comes from a poor family, and yet, is able to procure:
$ 2,000 Daniel Defense AR-15, Eotech sites, body armor, and a handgun, AND is driving a pickup truck. Think of what the ammo alone must have cost. Where did that windfall come from to afford all that shit? I mean, this is a kid who is bullied for being a cross dresser, and he's got all this expensive shit? Poor family? Who was his benefactor?
Edit: Kid had TWO AR's, not sure about the make of the second one. So poor he had TWO AR's and body armor. Poverty in America must be pretty great.
https://archive.ph/2022.05.25-113539/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10850557/Active-shooter-loose-Texas-elementary-school-campus-plunged-lockdown.html
Mike Mercury
05-25-2022, 8:42am
as soon as they wake Joe up, he'll be handed a sheet calling for gun control.
https://www.tim-yvonne.com/gif/bell1.gif
as soon as they wake Joe up, he'll be handed a sheet calling for gun control.
The SOB has been for gun control from his first day in the senate, this is one thing he can do in his sleep!
Strats-N-Vettes
05-25-2022, 8:55am
So; no "white supremacy is the nations biggest threat" statement from Brandon this morning?
So; no "white supremacy is the nations biggest threat" statement from Brandon this morning?
MSM will probably need a couple of days to develop that narrative? I’m certain white privilege plays a role in the heads of many, they just need help creating the story.
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 9:28am
Explain how you get from point A to point B on this theory. Be specific. (Victims are easy the schools are full of them)
Easy. These psychos are usually "known" to the FBI beforehand. That's code for, they're MK Ultra type time bombs that the deep state can set off, at will. I'll remind you of the Garland, TX shooter who went to shoot up the "Draw Mohammed Contest." He was not only known to the FBI, he had FBI agents right behind him who had just got done telling the crazed Muslim gunman to"tear up Texas." Is that specific enough for you? What do YOU think that means? His handlers were there to document the carnage.
These are people who will execute your whole family and your dog on a remote mountainside because you refused to inform to them, and people who will immolate dozens of women and children on live TV. Do you think people who will do this won't use mentally ill Americans as patsies, just like the Muslims do? The Muslims get their mentally ill to strap on those suicide vests and blow up markets. The FBI gets them to shoot up schools.
Now, of course I don't think every mass shooting situation is a set up, but I do believe that some are.
Tinfoil hat, out.
Edit: I'll also ask you to recall the "Gov. Whitmer kidnap plot!" Turns out that 8 of the 12 "plotters" were FBI agents or contractors, with only 4 patsies, who managed to be found innocent (two hung the jury) BECAUSE they proved the FBI set the whole damned thing up. Do you think a govt. agency that is willing to set up innocent Americans for something so hare-brained isn't doing other, much MORE malevolent shit?
Does this answer your Question ???
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 9:30am
Explain how you get from point A to point B on this theory. Be specific. (Victims are easy the schools are full of them)
Ak yourself how did this POOR Kid get $5000 worth of Firearms ???
Burro (He/Haw)
05-25-2022, 9:32am
Does this answer your Question ???
Not particularly. Furthermore I didn't ask him.
To suggest the D orchestrated the murder of children is absolutely ridiculous.
Answer yours?
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 9:33am
Not particularly. Furthermore I didn't ask him.
To suggest the D orchestrated the murder of children is absolutely ridiculous.
Answer yours?
refer to post 57
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 9:36am
Not particularly. Furthermore I didn't ask him.
To suggest the D orchestrated the murder of children is absolutely ridiculous.
Answer yours?
So you think that The FBI that goes after Conservatives and leaves Hillary and Hunter alone is on the up and up ??
Burro (He/Haw)
05-25-2022, 9:38am
So you think that The FBI that goes after Conservatives and leaves Hillary and Hunter alone is on the up and up ??
I didn't say that did I?
To suggest the D orchestrated the murder of children is absolutely ridiculous.
I said that.
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 9:42am
I didn't say that did I?
To suggest the D orchestrated the murder of children is absolutely ridiculous.
I said that.
Does it not occur to you that The FBI lets Traitors slide and instead goes after Parents at PTA meetings seem just as Ridiculous ???
Burro (He/Haw)
05-25-2022, 9:48am
Does it not occur to you that The FBI lets Traitors slide and instead goes after Parents at PTA meetings seem just as Ridiculous ???
Why are you struggling with this so much? We're talking about the D orchestrating the murder of school children to further their agenda.
Not Hillary, not the FBI, not the CIA, not Hunter, BLM, Pelosi, Covid, Masks, the jab or anything else. I specifically asked him about his statement regarding this shooting.
I didn't say that did I?
To suggest the D orchestrated the murder of children is absolutely ridiculous.
I said that.
The FBI orchestrated a fake kidnapping plot on Michigan's governor that blew up in court when the defense PROVED it was a FBI setup. Fact. Would you agree that something like this might, just might, be politically motivated? What else would people like that be capable of? And I notice you didn't address the FBI handlers who escorted the Muslim shooters to the Garland, TX Draw Mohommed contest. Do you think the FBI might have orchestrated the attempted murder of people at that contest, or nah? Do you think people willing to facilitate the murder of adults would somehow not be willing and able to facilitate the murder of kids? These people have some kind of moral code that kids are off limits?
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/09/fbi-agent-goaded-garland-shooter-to-tear-up-texas-raising-new-alarms-about-bureaus-methods/
FBI Agent Goaded Garland Shooter to “Tear Up Texas,” Raising New Alarms About Bureau’s Methods
An undercover FBI agent egged on a would-be terrorist shortly before he opened fire on a Texas cartoon contest last year, raising new doubts about the bureau’s approach to cozying up to its targets.
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 9:51am
Why are you struggling with this so much? We're talking about the D orchestrating the murder of school children to further their agenda.
Not Hillary, not the FBI, not the CIA, not Hunter, BLM, Pelosi, Covid, Masks, the jab or anything else. I specifically asked him about his statement regarding this shooting.
Not struggling with this at all !! I aked if you would have ever thought that The FBI would not be interested in law breaking traitors but be very interested in going after Soccer Moms.Why would it be so hard to believe that they wouldnt orchestrate Mayhem to further their sick agenda.
Why are you struggling with this so much? We're talking about the D orchestrating the murder of school children to further their agenda.
Not Hillary, not the FBI, not the CIA, not Hunter, BLM, Pelosi, Covid, Masks, the jab or anything else. I specifically asked him about his statement regarding this shooting.
The D's and the 'deep state' are the same thing, the same cabal.
Refresher:
Lovely Lisa Page, FBI agent: "He's never going to become president, right? Right?"
Stryzok, FBI agent: "No, he's not. We'll stop him."
Was that not clear enough for you? Agenda not clear enough? That's the 7th floor of the FBI plotting against Trump. And nothing happened to any of them, really.
It's a big club, and I'm not in it.
Not struggling with this at all !! I aked if you would have ever thought that The FBI would not be interested in law breaking traitors but be very interested in going after Soccer Moms.Why would it be so hard to believe that they wouldnt orchestrate Mayhem to further their sick agenda.
This. The reason such a suggestion is within the realm of possibility is BECAUSE of previous acts by the FBI/DoJ that we already KNOW happened.
Is it a certainty that the government was involved in setting off THIS particular waste of oxygen? No. Is it possible, given the sick, evil shit they've done in the past? Yes.
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 10:01am
The D's and the 'deep state' are the same thing, the same cabal.
Refresher:
Lovely Lisa Page, FBI agent: "He's never going to become president, right? Right?"
Stryzok, FBI agent: "No, he's not. We'll stop him."
Was that not clear enough for you? Agenda not clear enough? That's the 7th floor of the FBI plotting against Trump. And nothing happened to any of them, really.
It's a big club, and I'm not in it.
How did that POOR kid get 5k to buy guns ???
How did that POOR kid get 5k to buy guns ???
Probably just scrimped and saved by buying store brand cosmetics and thrift store dresses, just like everyone else, right?
6spdC6
05-25-2022, 10:41am
Not particularly. Furthermore I didn't ask him.
To suggest the D orchestrated the murder of children is absolutely ridiculous.
Answer yours?
Your more naive than I thought!:sadangel: You got to remember"absolute power corrupts absolutely".
Quoted from Google, "An observation that a person's sense of morality lessens as his or her power increases. The statement was made by Lord Acton, a British historian of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries."
Aerovette
05-25-2022, 10:47am
How did that POOR kid get 5k to buy guns ???
Poor kids can just as dangerous as white kids.
~Brandon
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 11:22am
Your more naive than I thought!:sadangel: You got to remember"absolute power corrupts absolutely".
Quoted from Google, "An observation that a person's sense of morality lessens as his or her power increases. The statement was made by Lord Acton, a British historian of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries."
I'm not saying definitely That FBI did set this shooting up but if its inconceivable to you than you must not be paying attention.Not you specifically :seasix:
Chemtrails99
05-25-2022, 11:43am
I used to think the idea the government was setting up attacks was for crackpots. I changed my mind when the San Bernardino shooting by a couple of Muslims happened. That happened right where I used to live, I drove, walked and bicycled the area and know it in great detail. The day it was happening I was at a computer with three police scanners from the area on listening to what was going on.
First, a whole lot of things never reported on the media happened. Like how just north of the sight they caught a van full of automatic weapons and ammo. Or how it was reported that a number of men with faces covered in all black did the killings and were seen running away from the scene. Or how they were seen to get into a black SUV and drive away to the east in a riverbed....yet 20 minutes later were found in a Target parking lot to the northwest of the location. Or why black helicopters dropped of men who captured somebody in a parking structure in the next town over when this was going on. Or how about how supposedly reporters ransacked the house the killers lived in before the FBI investigated it and nothing happened to them?
But it switched me to accepting governments were involved when I found out a really good friend only missed the christmas party that was attacked because she was out sick- and her co-workers all said it was a group of men in black, not just two shooters in the room. People were killed for sure, including the one who ran the coffee shop in the building who was somebody I knew from working at RenFaire in Devore.
When too many things don't add up to common sense, an outside force is involved. It's not too much of an idea that the government is staging it's own Gleiwitz incidents for their own reasons.
Aerovette
05-25-2022, 11:51am
I used to think the idea the government was setting up attacks was for crackpots. I changed my mind when the San Bernardino shooting by a couple of Muslims happened. That happened right where I used to live, I drove, walked and bicycled the area and know it in great detail. The day it was happening I was at a computer with three police scanners from the area on listening to what was going on.
First, a whole lot of things never reported on the media happened. Like how just north of the sight they caught a van full of automatic weapons and ammo. Or how it was reported that a number of men with faces covered in all black did the killings and were seen running away from the scene. Or how they were seen to get into a black SUV and drive away to the east in a riverbed....yet 20 minutes later were found in a Target parking lot to the northwest of the location. Or why black helicopters dropped of men who captured somebody in a parking structure in the next town over when this was going on. Or how about how supposedly reporters ransacked the house the killers lived in before the FBI investigated it and nothing happened to them?
But it switched me to accepting governments were involved when I found out a really good friend only missed the christmas party that was attacked because she was out sick- and her co-workers all said it was a group of men in black, not just two shooters in the room. People were killed for sure, including the one who ran the coffee shop in the building who was somebody I knew from working at RenFaire in Devore.
When too many things don't add up to common sense, an outside force is involved. It's not too much of an idea that the government is staging it's own Gleiwitz incidents for their own reasons.
I used to think the 9/11 conspiracy theorists were certifiably nuts. I no longer do. The only difference between actual domestic terrorists and government sanctioned terrorism, is the ability to cover their tracks.
Iron Chef
05-25-2022, 11:52am
:waiting: :waiting:
Why are you struggling with this so much? We're talking about the D orchestrating the murder of school children to further their agenda.
Not Hillary, not the FBI, not the CIA, not Hunter, BLM, Pelosi, Covid, Masks, the jab or anything else. I specifically asked him about his statement regarding this shooting.
Let me ask you something, do you trust the D?
How do the D make money?
Over the past 30 years, who has made the most money for the D?
Do you feel that the D make decisions that are based in the interest of the country or to benefit members of their agenda?
Chemtrails99
05-25-2022, 2:15pm
I used to think the 9/11 conspiracy theorists were certifiably nuts. I no longer do. The only difference between actual domestic terrorists and government sanctioned terrorism, is the ability to cover their tracks.
Exactly where I am today.
Let me ask you something, do you trust the D?
How do the D make money?
Over the past 30 years, who has made the most money for the D?
Do you feel that the D make decisions that are based in the interest of the country or to benefit members of their agenda?
I ask the same questions of the R's and get the same answers....I don't trust them as far as I could throw them. They both make money from unnecessary wars, from foreign aid kickbacks, and from flooding the country with illegals. None of this benefits me in the slightest.
Not sure how the D's are making extra money by intentionally creating hyper Bidenflation, and crushing the American people under a pogrom of forced austerity and poverty, but I'm sure the right people shorted a bunch of shit to profit from this, too.
Burro (He/Haw)
05-25-2022, 2:24pm
Let me ask you something, do you trust the D? No.
How do the D make money? Same way the R does I imgine
Over the past 30 years, who has made the most money for the D? The D.
Do you feel that the D make decisions that are based in the interest of the country or to benefit members of their agenda? Their agenda.
Now. Substitute R for D. See if that rings true.
Back to my original question. Explain how you get from point A to point B on the D orchestrating the murder of children. Include what's to be gained. Be specific.
I ask the same questions of the R's and get the same answers....I don't trust them as far as I could throw them. They both make money from unnecessary wars, from foreign aid kickbacks, and from flooding the country with illegals. None of this benefits me in the slightest.
Not sure how the D's are making extra money by intentionally creating hyper Bidenflation, and crushing the American people under a pogrom of forced austerity and poverty, but I'm sure the right people shorted a bunch of shit to profit from this, too.
We being moved along now on the fast track for a one world order with people like Gates and Sorros in charge. Biden is close to signing the UN health bullshit that gives all sorts of power for the UN to dictate what we can and cannot do in health issues like pandemics..
Obunghole through his asshole friend Ambassador Kerry tried to do that with small arms, (Rifles shotguns pistols)
Aerovette
05-25-2022, 2:32pm
We being moved along now on the fast track for a one world order with people like Gates and Sorros in charge. Biden is close to signing the UN health bullshit that gives all sorts of power for the UN to dictate what we can and cannot do in health issues like pandemics..
Obunghole through his asshole friend Ambassador Kerry tried to do that with small arms, (Rifles shotguns pistols)
The guns will be controlled by the WHO. Watch and see.
Shootings will be a health threat/pandemic/emergency and off we slide down the slope.
Now. Substitute R for D. See if that rings true.
Back to my original question. Explain how you get from point A to point B on the D orchestrating the murder of children. Include what's to be gained. Be specific.
~ gun owner registry
~ gun confiscation
~ mass murder of citizens by government
[Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. have entered the chat]
Just look at the Australian government's covid response.....beating citizens in the street, dragging them to Wu flu concentration camps, oppressively lock down their cities and country. They did this because, while there are still some privately owned guns in Australia, after their confiscation, there just aren't that many, and most of the folks who have them aren't willing to bring them out in the open because that will be the end of them, they'll be taken, too. Who can oppose those jackboots? What are they supposed to use? Harsh language?
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/australia-gun-control/541710/
Burro (He/Haw)
05-25-2022, 2:39pm
~ gun owner registry
~ gun confiscation
~ mass murder of citizens by government
[Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. have entered the chat]
Just look at the Australian government's covid response.....beating citizens in the street, dragging them to Wu flu concentration camps, oppressively lock down their cities and country. They did this because, while there are still some privately owned guns in Australia, after their confiscation, there just aren't that many, and most of the folks who have them aren't willing to bring them out in the open because that will be the end of them, they'll be taken, too. Who can oppose those jackboots? What are they supposed to use? Harsh language?
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/australia-gun-control/541710/
What is it with you? Let the man respond. Your help he don't need. :rofl:
What is it with you? Let the man respond. Your help he don't need. :rofl:
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Aerovette
05-25-2022, 2:43pm
If you can conquer 2A, you can accomplish LITERALLY anything in this country.
Most other freedoms have already been bastardized and manipulated. 2A has been as well, but it has not yet been defeated. Once it happens, it's game over. We become the USSR of the 50s.
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 2:43pm
What is it with you? Let the man respond. Your help he don't need. :rofl:
Doesn't matter who tells the truth
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 2:43pm
If you can conquer 2A, you can accomplish LITERALLY anything in this country.
Most other freedoms have already been bastardized and manipulated. 2A has been as well, but it has not yet been defeated. Once it happens, it's game over. We become the USSR of the 50s.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now. Substitute R for D. See if that rings true.
Back to my original question. Explain how you get from point A to point B on the D orchestrating the murder of children. Include what's to be gained. Be specific.
I don't trust any of them, and know quite a few
Burro (He/Haw)
05-25-2022, 3:08pm
Doesn't matter who tells the truth
You're looking for an argument. Maybe even a debate. Lemme save you the trouble you won't be getting it from me. :cert:
Now. Substitute R for D. See if that rings true.
Back to my original question. Explain how you get from point A to point B on the D orchestrating the murder of children. Include what's to be gained. Be specific.
Show me how they didn't
Anjdog2003
05-25-2022, 3:12pm
The guns will be controlled by the WHO. Watch and see.
:confused5:
UDfAdHBtK_Q
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 3:32pm
You're looking for an argument. Maybe even a debate. Lemme save you the trouble you won't be getting it from me. :cert:
Then what exactly is your point
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 3:33pm
:confused5:
UDfAdHBtK_Q
:rofl:
Burro (He/Haw)
05-25-2022, 3:36pm
Show me how they didn't
Come on Rob. You know better than that. I didn't make the claim you did. If this is your belief you're basing it on something. What is it.
I'll make it easy for you; give my one example ONE where the .GOV orchestrated a mass shooting at a school.
:waiting:
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 3:39pm
Come on Rob. You know better than that. I didn't make the claim you did. If this is your belief you're basing it on something. What is it.
I'll make it easy for you; give my one example ONE where the .GOV orchestrated a mass shooting at a school.
:waiting:
Yesterday
I hope we don't get to a point where these people actually attempt to confiscate our firearms but if they do, history says it's time to resist, not lose them in a boating accident.
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 3:48pm
I hope we don't get to a point where these people actually attempt to confiscate our firearms but if they do, history says it's time to resist, not lose them in a boating accident.
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
This ^^^^^^^^^
sublime1996525
05-25-2022, 4:16pm
How did that POOR kid get 5k to buy guns ???
Credit card?
Anjdog2003
05-25-2022, 5:02pm
Ak yourself how did this POOR Kid get $5000 worth of Firearms ???
White Privilege Republicans that go to church and have a full time job probably loaned him the money. :yesnod:
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 5:47pm
White Privilege Republicans that go to church and have a full time job probably loaned him the money. :yesnod:
No other explanation :seasix:
Except for maybe The KKK :rofl:
Bravo
Aerovette
05-25-2022, 6:08pm
Here is my theory.
Lunatic kid in constant conflict with parents, runs off to stay with grandma because he can run unchecked. Pilfers money from grandma and buys guns. Grandma confronts him, he shoots her and concludes his life just went full shitter mode and decides to go out in a blaze of glory by becoming famous for a school shooting. He so psyched up and rev'ing the red line on adrenaline, he crashes out and his plan needs a fast tweak before cops can ask questions. His shooting never gets to be as methodical as he planned and he improvises by going bonkers and shooting madly in the limited time he has.
Come on Rob. You know better than that. I didn't make the claim you did. If this is your belief you're basing it on something. What is it.
I'll make it easy for you; give my one example ONE where the .GOV orchestrated a mass shooting at a school.
:waiting:
Columbine
Sandy Hook
https://media.patriots.win/post/QspFYnW3YEoB.jpeg
https://media.patriots.win/post/QspFYnW3YEoB.jpeg
Once a douche, always a douche. :yesnod:
Chemtrails99
05-25-2022, 6:58pm
https://media.patriots.win/post/QspFYnW3YEoB.jpeg
The sooner he dies, the better. One of the biggest threats against the USA.
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JRD77VET
05-25-2022, 8:10pm
Now. Substitute R for D. See if that rings true.
Back to my original question. Explain how you get from point A to point B on the D orchestrating the murder of children. Include what's to be gained. Be specific.
As stated earlier, remove the 2A and you can imposed whatever you want.
Learpilot
05-25-2022, 9:19pm
https://media.patriots.win/post/QspFYnW3YEoB.jpeg
Once a douche, always a douche. :yesnod:
Well said :hurray:
ZipZap
05-25-2022, 11:52pm
Still hoping that we get a bit more info on this psycho.
If it's true that he "legally" purchased two AR's one being a Daniel Defense weapon, where the hell does an ex-Wendy's employee get the money to do so?
I'm not ready to go all alien abduction on this, but there are definitely some questions that need answers.
Start with Grandpa. The whole "I didn't know he had guns" is bullshit. The kid shot his wife in the face FFS. Also, where are his parents? Just crackheads in San Antonio? Time to start doxxing where doxxing is appropriate.
https://media.patriots.win/post/lCh8OaMhcJZ2.png
The sooner he dies, the better. One of the biggest threats against the USA.
Now thats no way to be talking about our beloved POTUS, now on his third successful term!
Burro (He/Haw)
05-26-2022, 6:04am
Now thats no way to be talking about our beloved POTUS, now on his third successful term!
You shouldn’t be so hard on a guy and his political party that supports your union membership AND funded your healthy retirement.
You shouldn’t be so hard on a guy and his political party that supports your union membership AND funded your healthy retirement.
My political views were well know in my union. (Good bet it kept me out of a few jobs) Only the BAs and BMs are basically lock step democrats. Over the course of time I have worked with many union people of many trades and guess what most are more conservative voters. Just because it says in the papers that so&so is supported by a union means nothing, basically he has the BA/BM vote!):rofl:
Only one democrat I ever voted for and he was a good friend of the family and not too wacky for a democrat. His name was Samuel Stratton!
Burro (He/Haw)
05-26-2022, 7:23am
My political views were well know in my union. (Good bet it kept me out of a few jobs) Only the BAs and BMs are basically lock step democrats. Over the course of time I have worked with many union people of many trades and guess what most are more conservative voters. Just because it says in the papers that so&so is supported by a union means nothing, basically he has the BA/BM vote!):rofl:
Only one democrat I ever voted for and he was a good friend of the family and not too wacky for a democrat. His name was Samuel Stratton!
Waitwaitwait.
So you didn't cast your vote for the party that supports unions and union membership? The union that put food on your table, paid your bills, funded your retirement and put a Corvette in the garage?
Oh, you'll make your arguments that many union people are conservative by nature and that's definitely true. But it's probably worth mentioning without that union, your retirement might not be as succulent.
I'm curious; what do non-union Fitters make these days? Total package now not just taxable. I'll hazard a guess it's significantly less than what you were paid - affording you the lifestyle you currently enjoy.
https://media.patriots.win/post/PAsTGhmZgzNd.jpeg
Learpilot
05-26-2022, 7:50am
Now thats no way to be talking about our beloved POTUS, now on his third successful term!
Its funny that BHO is telling that you dont need an AR However I dont think that halfwit needs 4 homes worth 200 million.I guess were even.
Chemtrails99
05-26-2022, 7:51am
So a story broke that the shooter was a cross dressing leftist supposedly proven on 4Chan. His account vanished soon after that. EVERY major news network is saying it is fake and Republicans are stupid for believing a fake story from such a dumb place as 4Chan.
WHY?
When 4Chan pranksters made up a story of Trump pissing on hookers (and admitted they made it up!), the press ran with it. In fact, most of the Leftists still think the story is true.
So which is it, is 4Chan fake news or real? Why the double standard?
Learpilot
05-26-2022, 8:07am
So a story broke that the shooter was a cross dressing leftist supposedly proven on 4Chan. His account vanished soon after that. EVERY major news network is saying it is fake and Republicans are stupid for believing a fake story from such a dumb place as 4Chan.
WHY?
When 4Chan pranksters made up a story of Trump pissing on hookers (and admitted they made it up!), the press ran with it. In fact, most of the Leftists still think the story is true.
So which is it, is 4Chan fake news or real? Why the double standard?
you know why
https://media.patriots.win/post/Y6nilymAMCVZ.jpeg
Waitwaitwait.
So you didn't cast your vote for the party that supports unions and union membership? The union that put food on your table, paid your bills, funded your retirement and put a Corvette in the garage?
Oh, you'll make your arguments that many union people are conservative by nature and that's definitely true. But it's probably worth mentioning without that union, your retirement might not be as succulent.
I'm curious; what do non-union Fitters make these days? Total package now not just taxable. I'll hazard a guess it's significantly less than what you were paid - affording you the lifestyle you currently enjoy.
Don't know-don't care! I have a right to my own opinion! Never been too shy, why start now. Why works for you may not work for me, lets leave it at that.
Burro (He/Haw)
05-26-2022, 8:55am
Your more naive than I thought!:sadangel:
Don't know-don't care! I have a right to my own opinion! Never been too shy, why start now. Why works for you may not work for me, lets leave it at that.
Let's not.
So; "Hurray for me and **** you."
:sadangel:
Integrity is hard to come by these days isn't it?
https://media.patriots.win/post/L9won4fHfOmd.jpeg
Let's not.
So; "Hurray for me and **** you."
:sadangel:
Integrity is hard to come by these days isn't it?
I have never changed my views.
Now to bring this back on topic, If the demos realy were interested in good gun control, they would punish the people that do the shootings, robberies, rapes and not go after the honest peoples guns. They along with their accomplices in the MSM glorify those creeps. Funny thing they never vote for ultra stiff incarceration times and rules, a real good fast working death penalty.
At least these Texas cops took care of business, no mass shooter should ever be taken alive PERIOD. Kill the SOBs and quickly bury them in a landfill!
Aerovette
05-26-2022, 9:12am
Still hoping that we get a bit more info on this psycho.
If it's true that he "legally" purchased two AR's one being a Daniel Defense weapon, where the hell does an ex-Wendy's employee get the money to do so?
I'm not ready to go all alien abduction on this, but there are definitely some questions that need answers.
Start with Grandpa. The whole "I didn't know he had guns" is bullshit. The kid shot his wife in the face FFS. Also, where are his parents? Just crackheads in San Antonio? Time to start doxxing where doxxing is appropriate.
20 hours per week x $8.00 per hour = 160.00 per week x .80 (after tax) = 128.00 per week x 104 weeks (he worked there two years) = $13,312. He could buy the weapons and still have $8,000.00 left.
Now the rest.
He shot his grandMOTHER, there is no known father, his mom is a drug addict. :seasix:
Chemtrails99
05-26-2022, 9:55am
I have never changed my views.
Now to bring this back on topic, If the demos realy were interested in good gun control, they would punish the people that do the shootings, robberies, rapes and not go after the honest peoples guns. They along with their accomplices in the MSM glorify those creeps. Funny thing they never vote for ultra stiff incarceration times and rules, a real good fast working death penalty.
At least these Texas cops took care of business, no mass shooter should ever be taken alive PERIOD. Kill the SOBs and quickly bury them in a landfill!
....except it's being reported the local cops stood around outside for 45 minutes and wouldn't go in, which is why some Border Patrol special agent fellow ended it....
Aerovette
05-26-2022, 10:02am
So a story broke that the shooter was a cross dressing leftist supposedly proven on 4Chan. His account vanished soon after that. EVERY major news network is saying it is fake and Republicans are stupid for believing a fake story from such a dumb place as 4Chan.
WHY?
When 4Chan pranksters made up a story of Trump pissing on hookers (and admitted they made it up!), the press ran with it. In fact, most of the Leftists still think the story is true.
So which is it, is 4Chan fake news or real? Why the double standard?
If the pics were fakes, his account would not have had those pictures in it. All that was needed is to turn off comments and let the actual posts speak for themselves.
DJ_Critterus
05-26-2022, 10:03am
Did anybody see what the POS Obidiot tweeted out? He basically said this tragedy was about St. George of Minnesota :mad:
As we grieve the children of Uvalde today, we should take time to recognize that two years have passed since the murder of George Floyd under the knee of a police officer. His killing dtays with us all to this day, especially those who loved him.
Learpilot
05-26-2022, 10:08am
Let's not.
So; "Hurray for me and **** you."
:sadangel:
Integrity is hard to come by these days isn't it?
Yes it is !! you need to try harder HOPE THIS HELPS :seasix:
6spdC6
05-26-2022, 10:09am
....except it's being reported the local cops stood around outside for 45 minutes and wouldn't go in, which is why some Border Patrol special agent fellow ended it....
I have a few questions about that myself. I would like to see a honest time line proved up by radio traffic as that will date things to the minute!. Also why was this shooter idiot not grabbed when he first showed up at the school. I guess it was not in the demos play book!
Learpilot
05-26-2022, 10:09am
Did anybody see what the POS Obidiot tweeted out? He basically said this tragedy was about St. George of Minnesota :mad:
Its all about St George of Stanford
Chemtrails99
05-26-2022, 10:18am
If the pics were fakes, his account would not have had those pictures in it. All that was needed is to turn off comments and let the actual posts speak for themselves.
You haven't noticed? When a known Leftist commits some horrible crime, their entire on-line profile vanishes like magic. If anyone else is even accused of a crime, they get doxxed, countless fake stories crop up and the public screams for their head. That's how it works.
sublime1996525
05-26-2022, 10:50am
Did anybody see what the POS Obidiot tweeted out? He basically said this tragedy was about St. George of Minnesota :mad:
WTF? What does that piece of shit have to do with this piece of shit? I hate people.
Aerovette
05-26-2022, 10:53am
You haven't noticed? When a known Leftist commits some horrible crime, their entire on-line profile vanishes like magic. If anyone else is even accused of a crime, they get doxxed, countless fake stories crop up and the public screams for their head. That's how it works.
I'm in FB jail for suggesting that "Sometimes a throat punch is the only answer" regarding some douchebag in a video.
Had I posted that I was going to shoot my grandmother and a school, I'd be able to continue posting.
The shooter.
I know mainstream will never verify authenticity, and 4chan can be a shitshow. Will we ever know whether these are actually true?
20 hours per week x $8.00 per hour = 160.00 per week x .80 (after tax) = 128.00 per week x 104 weeks (he worked there two years) = $13,312. He could buy the weapons and still have $8,000.00 left.
Now the rest.
He shot his grandMOTHER, there is no known father, his mom is a drug addict. :seasix:
Yes. And I forgot about the government subsidies over the past couple years.
Still don't know why his "guardians" were so immune to notice anything odd.
Aerovette
05-26-2022, 4:08pm
Yes. And I forgot about the government subsidies over the past couple years.
Still don't know why his "guardians" were so immune to notice anything odd.
With the grandmother, it is probably generational. Easy to fool. With the mother, she was most likely high and not caring.
Chemtrails99
05-26-2022, 4:46pm
I'm in FB jail for suggesting that "Sometimes a throat punch is the only answer" regarding some douchebag in a video.
Had I posted that I was going to shoot my grandmother and a school, I'd be able to continue posting.
You're starting to understand!
With the grandmother, it is probably generational. Easy to fool. With the mother, she was most likely high and not caring.
There's just so much shit swirling on this one. His grandparents not doing more to stop him from buying firearms when he clearly was not fit to do so. They should have had a restraining order filed.
The locals not fully engaging him when they had the chance.
Did he really spend 10-15 minutes outside the school before he went in? Texans, LEO's or otherwise, need to do better. Were those asses just eating donuts?
Do they really have schools that have unlocked access to classrooms? We didn't even have that in the 70's. After the bell rang, only unlocked access was the office and the bathrooms.
Did those Uvalde "LEO's" really just camp out for a while until some Border Patrol guy who actually had some balls came to breach the door?
I expect to hear much more in the next few weeks, but not sure we'll hear the truth.
JRD77VET
05-26-2022, 7:30pm
Many questions and rumors going around.
Cops waited for up to 90 minutes ( 30-90 depending on story) and then "didn't have a key" to get in the classroom. ( funny how not having a key never stops them from serving a warrant)
Shooter was seeing a therapist who specialized in hypnotism.
How did he get a $70K Ford F250?
$5K in weapons, body armor and sights
Posted on facebook three times that he was going to shoot up the school
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/25/uvalde-gunman-made-three-facebook-posts-30-minutes-before-attack/
Seemed pretty proficient in reloading for someone who "never fired weapons"
FBI showed up pretty quick on the scene
~~~~~~~~~~
Plenty more but this seems pretty rotten at the exact same time as the Durham prosecution.
JRD77VET
05-26-2022, 7:48pm
Just heard the police on scene got THEIR kids out but sat on their ass for the other students.
sublime1996525
05-27-2022, 12:58am
Just heard the police on scene got THEIR kids out but sat on their ass for the other students.
If true, this is pure ****ery!
Learpilot
05-27-2022, 5:22am
Just heard the police on scene got THEIR kids out but sat on their ass for the other students.
this is hard to believe
Louie Detroit
05-27-2022, 5:28am
this is haed to believe
Yea, it sounds like Democratic Underground tier shit.
ratflinger
05-27-2022, 8:17am
WSJ is reporting today that the kid shot at a funeral home and the people inside called 911 and told them the shooter was going to the school. 14 min went buy before ANY cops showed up. Uvalde is not that large of a town, it wouldn't take 14 min to drive across it. So WTF? Then the cops stood around waiting for a tactical unit. Every cop there (excepting the 3 BP agents that went in) should be stripped of their certifications and dismissed. Some of the cops were actually arresting parents that were demanding action, one woman was freed from the US Marshal's custody and then ran into the school to fetch her children. She showed more balls than armed and trained officers. Yep, when seconds matter the cops are 14 min away. Biggest question is Why weren't some of the teachers armed?
Aerovette
05-27-2022, 8:41am
It is easy to "armchair quarterback" all of this in hindsight, but the real bullshit is them doing NOTHING. Better to do something questionable or risky than to stand down.
slewfoot
05-27-2022, 8:57am
Yesterday
https://i.imgur.com/bS38vjp.jpg
slewfoot
05-27-2022, 8:58am
It is easy to "armchair quarterback" all of this in hindsight, but the real bullshit is them doing NOTHING. Better to do something questionable or risky than to stand down.
:seasix:
Loco Vette
05-27-2022, 9:46am
WSJ is reporting today that the kid shot at a funeral home and the people inside called 911 and told them the shooter was going to the school. 14 min went buy before ANY cops showed up. Uvalde is not that large of a town, it wouldn't take 14 min to drive across it. So WTF? Then the cops stood around waiting for a social worker. Every cop there (excepting the 3 BP agents that went in) should be stripped of their certifications and dismissed. Some of the cops were actually arresting parents that were demanding action, one woman was freed from the US Marshal's custody and then ran into the school to fetch her children. She showed more balls than armed and trained officers. Yep, when seconds matter the cops are 14 min away. Biggest question is Why weren't some of the teachers armed?
FIFY. This is 2022, after all.
It is easy to "armchair quarterback" all of this in hindsight, but the real bullshit is them doing NOTHING. Better to do something questionable or risky than to stand down.
So who that has worked in the last 10 years has not gone through some sort of active shooter training at work? Clearly this situation was in the "fight" stage and it's embarrassing that LEO's were sitting back.
There's some pretty good stories about another BP agent grabbing a shotgun from his barber and attempting to clear kids, including his own, from the school.
It's still hard to separate the wheat from the chaff, but I'm guessing some parents in Uvalde will be calling for some local LEO heads to roll. I actually hope that the radio transcripts will become available so that we can determine whether the orders came down the chain to wait it out.
Burro (He/Haw)
05-27-2022, 3:50pm
They should have sent in Dan Bilzerian.
They should have sent in Dan Bilzerian.
Except that some rando mom was already kicking ass.
JRD77VET
05-27-2022, 6:48pm
Just heard the police on scene got THEIR kids out but sat on their ass for the other students.
If true, this is pure ****ery!
this is hard to believe
Yea, it sounds like Democratic Underground tier shit.
This may have been the "blurb" that got that going.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-border-patrol/2022/05/27/id/1071809/
Border Patrol Agent Helps Rescue Daughter, Dozens More From Texas School
A quick-thinking, off-duty, Border Patrol officer, armed with his barber's shotgun, helped rescue dozens of children and his daughter during the nightmarish shooting at the Uvalde, Texas, elementary school.
The New York Times reported that Jacob Albarado was getting his hair cut when his wife Trisha, who teaches fourth grade at Robb Elementary, sent him an urgent text message.
"There's an active shooter," she wrote. "Help." And she added: "I love you."
As he got ready to run out, his barber loaned him a shotgun. Albarado then sped off to the school.
Once there, he was told a tactical unit was forming to enter the section of the school where the shooter was. Albarado came up with a plan with other officers to evacuate as many children as they could.
The Times said he led other law enforcement officers toward the wing where his daughter's classroom was.
"I'm looking for my daughter, but I also know what wing she's in," he said, "so I start clearing all the classes in her wing."
His wife and her students were hiding under desks and behind curtains. Their daughter, Jayda, who is in the second grade, was locked in a bathroom.
Two officers provided cover with their guns drawn, he said. Two others guided dozens of screaming kids and their teachers out on the sidewalk.
"They were just all hysterical, of course," Albarado said.
He hugged his daughter when he finally saw her, but then went back to making sure the other children were safe.
"I did what I was trained to do," Albarado said.
Meanwhile, the White House is declining to weigh in on reports that police were slow to respond to the school shooting — perhaps even keeping some parents from running into the building to protect their children.
The White House supports a thorough review of the police response, which reportedly kept the gunman in a classroom for around 40 minutes before he was fatally shot by U.S. Border Patrol special forces.
JRD77VET
05-27-2022, 6:56pm
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No your ****ing fairy tale is actually believing a democrat would actually do something to help out the schools
Chuck Schumer BLOCKS school safety bill—says 'gun legislation' is the answer
"Not surprising that the Democrat leader would lie about the bill he blocked that parents of Parkland victims have been trying to pass for years," Sen. Ron Johnson said in response.
Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-NY) on Wednesday, in the wake of a mass shooting at an elementary school in southern Texas, has just used his powers to kill a new proposed school safety bill.
The bill would have charged the Department of Homeland Security with establishing standards for best practices in the area of school safety, and to "collect clearinghouse data analytics, user feedback on the implementation of best practices and recommendations identified by the clearinghouse, and any evaluations conducted on these best practices and recommendations."
According to Fox News, "after the horrific mass shooting at a Uvalde, Tex., elementary school that killed 19 children and two teachers, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) asked for the Luke and Alex School Safety Act to be passed by unanimous consent."
Schumer, however, commented publicly that he felt that the bill would lead to "more guns in schools," and believes that gun control legislation is the solution, saying on Twitter:
"GOP Sen. Johnson just tried for a bill that could see more guns in schools—I blocked it. The truth: There were officers at the school in Texas. The shooter got past them. We need real solutions—We will vote on gun legislation starting with the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act."
Johnson immediately tweeted his frustration and criticism of Schumer, saying that the Democrats in the Senate and at other levels of government are looking for "wedge issues" and don't really want to solve the issue.
"Not surprising that the Democrat leader would lie about the bill he blocked that parents of Parkland victims have been trying to pass for years. Dems aren’t looking for solutions, they want wedge issues that they hope will keep them in power. Sick."
https://thepostmillennial.com/chuck-schumer-blocks-school-safety-bill-says-gun-legislation-is-the-answer
slewfoot
05-27-2022, 7:42pm
No your ****ing fairy tale is actually believing a democrat would actually do something to help out the schools
Well, Trump stating he would like to eliminate gun free school zones is a step in
right direction. :rofl:
GOP Sen. Johnson just tried for a bill that could see more guns in schools—I blocked it. The truth: There were officers at the school in Texas. The shooter got past them. We need real solutions—We will vote on gun legislation starting with the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act
JRD77VET
05-27-2022, 7:56pm
Well, Trump stating he would like to eliminate gun free school zones is a step in
right direction. :rofl:
GOP Sen. Johnson just tried for a bill that could see more guns in schools—I blocked it. The truth: There were officers at the school in Texas. The shooter got past them. We need real solutions—We will vote on gun legislation starting with the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act
The "gun free zones" keep the law abiding citizens from keeping the area safe. Criminals by nature do not follow laws.
The officers at the school didn't go in because they weren't properly prepared. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT FAILED. they stayed outside the school for 40 minutes. What good is law enforcement if they don't do their job?
They knew the possible dangers when they chose that profession. They FAILED.
JRD77VET
05-27-2022, 8:01pm
You know what's needed for school security? US Veterans . They have the combat experience and would not hesitate to keep the kids safe while eliminating the threat.
But once again you can count on the democrats to not do what makes the most sense. They have an agenda to kill the 2A
Learpilot
05-27-2022, 8:33pm
Well, Trump stating he would like to eliminate gun free school zones is a step in
right direction. :rofl:
GOP Sen. Johnson just tried for a bill that could see more guns in schools—I blocked it. The truth: There were officers at the school in Texas. The shooter got past them. We need real solutions—We will vote on gun legislation starting with the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act
That you don't undeslrstand simple solutions is not surprising.
ratflinger
05-27-2022, 8:48pm
There were no armed officers at the school that the shooter got past. At least according to the official DPS mouthpiece.
Aerovette
05-27-2022, 8:58pm
There were no armed officers at the school that the shooter got past. At least according to the official DPS mouthpiece.
The original lie stated there was an officer and he was shot. It was NOT true and Johnson is full of shit...but I'm stating the obvious.
Schumer KNOWS the fix is in. He'll wait until midterms when they have the House and Senate.
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