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Bill
04-11-2022, 1:39pm
I confess I didn't know this, always thought they were simply umlauts.




https://www.languagetrainers.com/blog/youre-not-naive-not-to-know-about-diaereses/


You’re not naïve not to know about diaereses

Posted by Matthew

January 4, 2011


I was recently asked by a family member why the word naïve has two dots above the i, even though they can only ever remember seeing it written as naive. They thought it was an umlaut, which is added to certain vowels in German (usually ö and ü) to change their pronunciation. A German umlaut (or a “trema” when applied to Dutch) implies an “e” sound, and words can be written with or without the diacritic: e.g. the German for “spoon” can be written löffel or loeffel.

However, the ï in naïve is not an umlaut – it’s a diaeresis, also known as a hiatus. An umlaut signifies a compound letter, whereas a diaeresis signifies that a vowel should be taken as a separate sound from the preceding one – that is to say, that the second vowel is not part of a diphthong. “Naïve” is not pronounced the same as “knave”, but more like “ny-eev”; just as the name Zoë (sadly only rarely seen spelled with the diaeresis nowadays) is not pronounced “zo”, but “zo-ee”.

If you read any old books, you may come across diaereses in words that have, over time, lost them. Words like cooperate were originally spelled with the diaeresis: coöperate, reestablish would be rendered as reëstablish, and seer would be written seeër.

Interestingly, both of the terms for describing this linguistic feature (diaeresis and hiatus) have, in themselves, one of their own: diaeresis and hiatus. Perhaps they should be written diaëresis and hiätus!

The diaeresis is a dying diacritic in English – certain publications like the the New Yorker still retain them as part of their house style, but they are rarely seen or used, besides by grammarians.


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ratflinger
04-11-2022, 1:52pm
Thanks, I learned something useless.

Louie Detroit
04-11-2022, 2:16pm
Thanks for the big brain info Bill, but the closest I get to caring about that is diarrhea. :D

Mike Mercury
04-11-2022, 2:33pm
Do you know what a diaereses is?

sounds like a category on

pr0n hub.

DAB
04-11-2022, 2:52pm
if you eat alphabet soup, and take a laxative, the results can spell disaster.

that's my poop joke for the day.

Bill
04-11-2022, 2:55pm
sounds like a category on

pr0n hub.



Hmm, let's check that out.

"Yeah, baby, I'm gonna dot all over your vowel!"



[x] checks out
[ ] does not check out

MikeB
04-11-2022, 3:07pm
Sounds like something the Oncologists mentioned about my wife.

Aerovette
04-11-2022, 3:14pm
I like when she wears a diphthong.

MadInNc
04-11-2022, 3:23pm
I knew proud Europeans that use mats in their name. Since I don’t want to figure the special keys for it I told them to F Off…. Welcome to the 21st Century

Louie Detroit
04-11-2022, 3:29pm
if you eat alphabet soup, and take a laxative, the results can spell disaster.

that's my poop joke for the day.

It would be indistinguishable from the current crop of alphabet sexual sodomites. Whatever ever any time.

Learpilot
04-11-2022, 3:35pm
And here I clicked on it because I thought it might have something to do with Pantys.