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Datawiz
03-22-2022, 7:52pm
I just got elected to the Board of Directors for my HOA, and was nominated treasurer. I served on this Board back in 2004-2007 and was the treasurer back then. You think Biden's America is going great? This place became a dictatorship shit show (I've lived here 27 years) and I had to finally put my money where my mouth was. For the record, the grass roots team made recommendations for 3 of the 8 candidates (including me) and all 3 of us got elected.
The effing management company just cut a check 6 weeks ago to a vendor FOR ANOTHER COMMUNITY for $83,000. :willy: Patty and I made the commitment to stay in this house after GWiz decided to stay in Florida, so we've done a lot of improvements, but we need to get this place back to normalcy.
Again, what the **** was I thinking? New enemies incoming in 3...2...1... :banghead:
Mike Mercury
03-22-2022, 8:07pm
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ICNBYN.
I could never be your neighbor.
Datawiz
03-22-2022, 8:21pm
ICNBYN.
I could never be your neighbor.
You're no Mr. Rogers then.
Rodnok1
03-22-2022, 8:25pm
Iron Maiden > Tick burrowed into sack > HOA
Some are such tyrants they should be burned at the stake
Datawiz
03-22-2022, 8:27pm
Iron Maiden > Tick burrowed into sack > HOA
Some are such tyrants they should be burned at the stake
Hence why I had to come out of retirement and take action. Effing nutbags.
JRD77VET
03-22-2022, 8:31pm
Get the bullshit straightened out. Now that you're treasurer, see if the books need to be "professionally" audited for fraudulent activities.
HOA's can be a useful if run properly but also can be abused too easily.
Good luck :datawiz:
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When my Mom and Step Dad moved to Lithia FL , he ended up on the board to straighten shit out. Previous problems liked overpaid relatives for lawn care etc came to a quick end. Some "shady" dealings were paid back to the HOA fund and those folks avoided jail. :D
Datawiz
03-22-2022, 8:35pm
Get the bullshit straightened out. Now that you're treasurer, see if the books need to be "professionally" audited for fraudulent activities.
HOA's can be a useful if run properly but also can be abused too easily.
Good luck :datawiz:
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When my Mom and Step Dad moved to Lithia FL , he ended up on the board to straighten shit out. Previous problems liked overpaid relatives for lawn care etc came to a quick end. Some "shady" dealings were paid back to the HOA fund and those folks avoided jail. :D
Same head of the management company invited me to the office and said "all books would be open". I'll be taking these cock suckers up on that. Our Board "Accidentally" cut a check to the mgmt company for $14k, and they cried poor paying us back, asked for $4k forgiveness, and had to make PAYMENTS for the remaining $10k. There is so much corruption, it's not even funny. Sad for the current Board, cuz I'm a 1%'er, I can't be bought, I have a degree in accounting, and I hate mean and/or corrupt people.
JRD77VET
03-22-2022, 8:38pm
Sounds like the same shit Don went thru. Don was "upper management" and knew how to run multi million dollar corporations. It took some work but he got it back in line.
A pit dog attitude helps :yesnod:
MadInNc
03-22-2022, 8:40pm
I thought I had it good at new house w minimal HOA involvement. Added screen porch, built Tiki Bar but when I replaced the driveway apron and front sidewalk - they (one guy) gave me shit saying I needed the architectural board to approve. This is after I connected them to a friend who would work on the poll house which they want to hire.
What a crap pile. So as I look at the yard and think of converting the grass to Zoysia, I decided to ask them for approval. No problem was answer which was promptly followed up with the additional plans to build a two hole chipping course. Still waiting for answer:rofl: F Em:datawiz:
Datawiz
03-22-2022, 8:41pm
Sounds like the same shit Don went thru. Don was "upper management" and knew how to run multi million dollar corporations. It took some work but he got it back in line.
A pit dog attitude helps :yesnod:
That's me to a T. For **** sake's, I'm righting the woes of hundred billion dollar companies DAILY, and these clients are begging for more. I definitely found my station in life for sure, but it was time for me to give back to my community and take care of the many, many people in this community who are on fixed incomes.
NEED-A-VETTE
03-22-2022, 9:01pm
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slewfoot
03-22-2022, 9:08pm
I just got elected to the Board of Directors for my HOA, and was nominated treasurer. I served on this Board back in 2004-2007 and was the treasurer back then. You think Biden's America is going great? This place became a dictatorship shit show (I've lived here 27 years) and I had to finally put my money where my mouth was. For the record, the grass roots team made recommendations for 3 of the 8 candidates (including me) and all 3 of us got elected.
The effing management company just cut a check 6 weeks ago to a vendor FOR ANOTHER COMMUNITY for $83,000. :willy: Patty and I made the commitment to stay in this house after GWiz decided to stay in Florida, so we've done a lot of improvements, but we need to get this place back to normalcy.
Again, what the **** was I thinking? New enemies incoming in 3...2...1... :banghead:
:rofl: Been there done that, 12 years ago. I'm about to put my foot down also. This board has had outside property management for several years.
You/I cannot place all the blame on the management company because the "board" is responsible for the actions or inactions of the management company.
Good Luck.
MEANZ06
03-22-2022, 9:14pm
We live in a POA (Paradise pines owners association) less authoritarian that an HOA. Never thought I'd like a HOA but now we're older it works, Keeps the BS out of our neighborhood, no POS cars parked around, gotta keep your shit cleaned up etc. Nothing worse than having rowdy people move in the one rental near you and make a mess of things, living in the city it was a problem
I do a bunch of volunteer work in the community (mowing the meadows, fixing stuff at the lodge, painting, etc.) but I refuse to be on the board. We had a bit of an "uprising" last year from some people that weren't happy paying their share. Not a home in this neighborhood less than $1M and many that are $2M and up, and these folks were pissed off that they had to pay ~$2.5k per year in fees. We own the roads. We pay for both maintenance and snow removal. We have an independent audit every year. The folks in the community overwhelmingly squashed the uprising in the election. After managing organizations for 30+ years, it's going to take me a while before I even think about being on the BoD.
Datawiz
03-22-2022, 9:42pm
I do a bunch of volunteer work in the community (mowing the meadows, fixing stuff at the lodge, painting, etc.) but I refuse to be on the board. We had a bit of an "uprising" last year from some people that weren't happy paying their share. Not a home in this neighborhood less than $1M and many that are $2M and up, and these folks were pissed off that they had to pay ~$2.5k per year in fees. We own the roads. We pay for both maintenance and snow removal. We have an independent audit every year. The folks in the community overwhelmingly squashed the uprising in the election. After managing organizations for 30+ years, it's going to take me a while before I even think about being on the BoD.
We have 501 homes, and according to Zillow, the most valuable property is currently $1.03 Million. Mine's $612k. So a bit less than yours, and our dues have been about 1400/yr., but the board just slapped a 1400 special assessment, and nearly 20% of the community is in arrears in paying for this. We own the roads too, fortunately no snow to worry about. :lol: And even tonight in the annual meeting, the President said that if "costs change by 50% for the BS lake remediation", they don't have to ask permission for anything. I do NOT want to be on this board, but if not me, then whom? HOA's are ripe for corruption across the entire ecosystem. It's a terrible truth.
We have 501 homes, and according to Zillow, the most valuable property is currently $1.03 Million. Mine's $612k. So a bit less than yours, and our dues have been about 1400/yr., but the board just slapped a 1400 special assessment, and nearly 20% of the community is in arrears in paying for this. We own the roads too, fortunately no snow to worry about. :lol: And even tonight in the annual meeting, the President said that if "costs change by 50% for the BS lake remediation", they don't have to ask permission for anything. I do NOT want to be on this board, but if not me, then whom? HOA's are ripe for corruption across the entire ecosystem. It's a terrible truth.
That's bad. All meetings now are on Zoom, and people are free to call out our board on BS. FWIW, my wife is the head of the Social Committee, and I help with that. A few picnics and parties during the year. It's nice to bring folks together a few times a year to build the neighborhood feel. At 200 3 - 20 acre lots (just a few remain not built), it's $15 a year in the budget to support this effort. The community supports the firefighters that saved the neighborhood in 2013 as a part of this. We see all of the accounting paperwork every month, as well as the costs of the management company.
Unless I decide to move to 50 acres or more, I will always want enforced covenants to protect my investment.
Steve_R
03-22-2022, 10:09pm
We only have 80 homes. We own the two roads, a beach walkover and a pool. Landscaping is part of our $1,200/yr dues. HOA is pretty laid back and reasonable.
RMVette
03-23-2022, 5:30am
Our HOA president just quit because of all the BS he's been dealing with. People want me to run for the board and I've declined year after year. I was president of our Corvette club for 3 years and that was enough for me!
Good luck in your playless, thankless job! :rofl:
We built our place about 10 years ago, and I thought I'd stumbled onto the perfect situation.
No HOA, but there was an Architectural Board and Covenants.
Some of the covenants went too far, but most were reasonable.
Within a year of us moving in, the developer went tits-up and "gave" all vacant lots to the city to satisfy debts.
Covenants went out the window.
They said we could start an HOA, but nobody wanted to do that.
We now have boats and campers parked in empty lots, shitty fences, shitty lawn sheds, all kinds of stuff. :ack:
City sold all the vacant lots to another absentee investor, and they typically won't mow until the weeds are about knee high.
There's a boulevard at the entrance with a bunch of trees in the middle of them.
They've gone to shit, some are dying, and the city won't do a thing.
mrvette
03-23-2022, 8:15am
NO HOA in my burb/hood built in early 70's so 50 y/o but houses are all brick/block/masonry 1/4 acre 1-2 car garages, plenty of hazardous old oak trees that should have been cleared 50 years ago.....rotting out/dead/and tons of moss all over.....I have been responsible for taking out 5 LARGE trees on my property alone, and have another one to go on neighbor's lot on the prop line...but then we have planted VERY large bushes in back near the fence, and out on the tree lawn area so no hazards, except one.......far as the house itself, I have totally remodeled every part of it.....sheds, garage, kitchen, 2 baths, 300' room add. Roof, drainage, plumbing, electric updated.....windoze are thermal now.....lets call it a hobby house.....most of the houses here are looking good on the outside, hear roofing going on most all summer long for all the 25 years I been here....so the nay-bores are up with it also....
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Steve_R
03-23-2022, 8:40am
We built our place about 10 years ago, and I thought I'd stumbled onto the perfect situation.
No HOA, but there was an Architectural Board and Covenants.
Some of the covenants went too far, but most were reasonable.
Within a year of us moving in, the developer went tits-up and "gave" all vacant lots to the city to satisfy debts.
Covenants went out the window.
They said we could start an HOA, but nobody wanted to do that.
We now have boats and campers parked in empty lots, shitty fences, shitty lawn sheds, all kinds of stuff. :ack:
City sold all the vacant lots to another absentee investor, and they typically won't mow until the weeds are about knee high.
There's a boulevard at the entrance with a bunch of trees in the middle of them.
They've gone to shit, some are dying, and the city won't do a thing.
Yup, while a lot of people hate them, there are reasons HOAs exist. Some people are just pigs and won't take care of property unless forced to.
Same head of the management company invited me to the office and said "all books would be open". I'll be taking these cock suckers up on that. Our Board "Accidentally" cut a check to the mgmt company for $14k, and they cried poor paying us back, asked for $4k forgiveness, and had to make PAYMENTS for the remaining $10k. There is so much corruption, it's not even funny. Sad for the current Board, cuz I'm a 1%'er, I can't be bought, I have a degree in accounting, and I hate mean and/or corrupt people.
MHOAGA
Make HOA Great Again!
Homeowners First!
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Rodnok1
03-23-2022, 9:32am
Nothing wrong with some covenants to keep the trash out.. But in NC they rule with an iron fist and have power to take your house over minimal amount of money owed from fines. In the news regularly someone gets house taken away for a couple K in fines, no lie. They sell the house at auction and your on the hook for the mortgage still. ****ed up isn't it.
I have no issue with a lein on house for fines or the like say past dues.
Seize my house because we couldn't agree on something?
My sister lived in a HOA and got fines when I parked on street, was told park up front and walk. Well walking 5 or 6 blocks when it's 110 out in NC isn't my idea of fun.
I helped her and a few neighbors with documentation over the HOA rules that were not being followed exactly by the HOA. Notices not being sent, variences allowed then disallowed for no reason.
One neighbor got fined for a car with flat tire he was waiting for road side service.
It wasn't a newer HOA at all and they wanted houses upgraded. Tried passing a measure every house had to have new windows and doors in the front every 10 years effective that year so 200 houses all
would been in non compliance in 90 days. You could never use thd community building, seemed it was available a few hrs a month at best and roof leaked as we tried to have a baby shower there once.
Bullshit like that was non stop. Thankfully she moved as I was over there alot house sitting and rent a guards at gate were fuktards at best.
Iron Chef
03-23-2022, 11:36am
I was President of my HOA for 5 years (this was in 1999, just over 300 homes) and I can honestly say that it worked out fine. My board members were all professional people with full time jobs (several at nearby Lockheed) and we all had "No BS" attitudes. We would meet quarterly at my place, and after cocktails we'd look into things. Our covenants were straightforward but the Architectural Guidelines were kind of a mess, so I took the time to re-write them, removing ridiculous rules and things we legally couldn't enforce.
At first people were calling me with all these half-brained complaints. The first thing I would say was "have you read the covenants?" and usually it was "uhhhh...well....no". So I told them to read them and call me back if they still felt they had a valid complaint. Usually that was the last I heard. After awhile, the Karens in the neighborhood realized that we weren't going to buy into any of their whining nonsense and the calls stopped. One woman was the self-appointed "flower police" and went around the neighborhood looking to report people and send us a written letter of all the "violations" she felt occurred. After 3 letters went unanswered, she called me and I told her to knock it off (that's how I said it too...I have zero patience for busybodies).
We would have neighborhood parties and a XMAS party once a year that were well attended. For Halloween we'd celebrate a few days before or after with a huge neighborhood party, then on the actual day we'd turn off all the lights and stay in. Seems the low-enders liked to load up a van with their little hoodlums and drop them off at our neighborhood. After the first year, that stopped too. :D
One of my last duties as President before we moved was to go to the attorney's office and sign 5 home liens for non-payment of dues. :D
DJ_Critterus
03-23-2022, 1:08pm
Hence why I had to come out of retirement and take action. Effing nutbags.
Are you going to show your inner CF Mod and start banning your neighbors?
tjfontaine
03-23-2022, 1:08pm
We must be fortunate. Our 2nd home is in a 55+ high end HOA. I wanted the HOA for the amenities and how they did upkeep on all the landscaping and pretty features here. We have rules yes - but the people running the HOA are easy to work with and not nazis. Example - a couple years ago I KNEW the front of my house needed paint. I know the lady who runs the HOA well. She sends a nice email BEFORE I get the letter in the mail. I email here back and tell her I had plans to paint it in two weeks. She tells me "your word is good enough for me - I mark this done". Very few people in the community of 7000 have anything bad to say about our HOA unless they are those that like to swim upstream.
My wife and I have both been on the board for ours, she as treasurer, me as ACC.
Yes, it is a PITA, and I would prefer a neighborhood without one.
Dan Dlabay
03-23-2022, 1:20pm
I could never live in a HOA. I don't want somebody telling me what I can and can't do to my house that I bought and paid for.
HOA? nope, don't have one, don't want one.
just 9 lots in the 'hood here, all 5-15 acres, so plenty of set back from the access road for most homes. can only see 1 from the road. yay.
you want to collect shitty crap, no one can see it, so they don't care.
theandies
03-23-2022, 3:43pm
HOA's are a J-O-K-E. Anyone who willingly lives in a Karen community are nuts.
If I spend hundreds of thousands of $$$$ on something I'm going to do what I want to do with it. I will not hlet some idiot down the street tell me I and and can't do to my hard earned property.
We walked for every house we looked at no matter how much we liked it if was in an HOA community. I've get enough from local, state and federal governments telling me how to live my life. I'm not about to let some asshole down the streeet run my house. No ****ing thank you.
I lived in two HOA's and will never ever live in another one. We had a terrible one in VA Beach. The HOA sued our neighbor over the soffit not matching the gutters and downspouts. When he went to court and showed the pictures of when the developer built the house and how the house was built the judge threw out the suit and ruled in his favor. The HOA had to pay for court costs and some other litigation money.
Fast forward two months, we had the pool and clubhouse reserved. Paid for a life guard and were ready for a nice sweet sixteen birthday party for Bob's step daughter. We get all set up, life guard is there, food out, drinks out, some friends starting to arrive and BAM. The HOA president shows up and said there must have been a mistake and the pool was reserved for another board member. They had the police with them and we were evicted from the clubhouse and pool. The HOA refused to refund the deposit we left for the reservation. We left and took the lifeguard with us. The HOA president, family, and other board members commenced to have fun swimming and partying. That is until the police showed up and arrested ten of them for violation of the bylaws of using the pool without a lifeguard. They were all removed from the clubhouse so the HOA wouldn't be responsible for any injuries without a lifeguard on duty. Two months later the HOA was sued by Bob, he won. He had the books audited as part of the settlement seeing as he didn't get his deposit back. Gave him grounds to audit to prove he paid his deposit. Low and behold a whole bunch of money was missing. There were about 6 families who moved out overnight to other places minus some family members. Two years later the HOA dissolved. Never again.
Karen-wiz….
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Burro (He/Haw)
03-24-2022, 4:43am
My mom is president of her HOA. She’s 85. Quitcherbitchin. :Jeff '79:
Datawiz
03-24-2022, 7:04pm
Hmmm...total proxies collected - 224
total ballots cast - 187
Guess I will be forensically auditing this BS too. Now that I'm treasurer, I'm meeting with the management company next week, will demand that my name be put on every account as a signatory, requiring a 2nd signature on any bill over $500, or standing vendor bills. This will put in place safe guards that will prevent the president (same crook was elected .pres again), but he's lost his control for the most part. As treasure, I hold the keys now, and I'm bringing a big ****ing hammer to neuter the president, and ultimately trap him in his shenanigans. :yesnod:
Rodnok1
03-24-2022, 7:16pm
Funny how no checks and balances makes people try and pull shit isn't it.
We had where had to be 2 out of 3 authorized people to sign any checks at a couple businesses
Datawiz
03-24-2022, 7:21pm
Funny how no checks and balances makes people try and pull shit isn't it.
We had where had to be 2 out of 3 authorized people to sign any checks at a couple businesses
There is blood in the water, and my name is BRUCE. (Finding Nemo Shark reference for the old ****s)
While I don't really have time to do this, I'm going to dig to the tiniest corner of every nook and cranny from the past 2 years. I'm 100% confident that I will find shit. And since I'm no longer on the outside as a lowly homeowner, but now on the Board AND the Treasurer...heads are going to roll. Honesty and integrity will be forth coming for where we live. No more votes by the president for business with his firm. He's disqualified from voting when he has a vested interest. That guarantees he'll never get another contract. Can't wait to catch his ass in corruption. Same with the management company.
Rodnok1
03-24-2022, 7:46pm
Boy they really sauced your ass didn't they... I'd help bury them if i lived there.
NEED-A-VETTE
03-24-2022, 10:03pm
There is blood in the water, and my name is BRUCE. (Finding Nemo Shark reference for the old ****s)
While I don't really have time to do this, I'm going to dig to the tiniest corner of every nook and cranny from the past 2 years. I'm 100% confident that I will find shit. And since I'm no longer on the outside as a lowly homeowner, but now on the Board AND the Treasurer...heads are going to roll. Honesty and integrity will be forth coming for where we live. No more votes by the president for business with his firm. He's disqualified from voting when he has a vested interest. That guarantees he'll never get another contract. Can't wait to catch his ass in corruption. Same with the management company.
64922
For the next board meeting, think Walking Tall.
Hmmm...total proxies collected - 224
total ballots cast - 187
Guess I will be forensically auditing this BS too. Now that I'm treasurer, I'm meeting with the management company next week, will demand that my name be put on every account as a signatory, requiring a 2nd signature on any bill over $500, or standing vendor bills. This will put in place safe guards that will prevent the president (same crook was elected .pres again), but he's lost his control for the most part. As treasure, I hold the keys now, and I'm bringing a big ****ing hammer to neuter the president, and ultimately trap him in his shenanigans. :yesnod:
And therein lies the problem. People become complacent and other, less moral people, take advantage. Thankfully, we are still not at that point in the community.
DataFizz at the next HOA meeting!
Does Karenwiz want to see the manager???
Probably want to have this playing as background music when you walk in to the first HOA meeting:
Carl Orff - O Fortuna ~ Carmina Burana - YouTube
Datawiz
03-25-2022, 1:26pm
Does Karenwiz want to see the manager???
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Datawiz
03-25-2022, 2:23pm
Probably want to have this playing as background music when you walk in to the first HOA meeting:
Carl Orff - O Fortuna ~ Carmina Burana - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXFSK0ogeg4&t)
Thanks for that, and let's put a new wrinkle into this...leading by example. At the annual meeting, it was discussed about the delinquent homeowners on their annual dues. There are about 7 of them. Some man (maybe related) stood up and petitioned the Board regarding special circumstances for a long term (25 year) resident. She's 92, lost her husband 5 years ago, and has now been put into collections for her $1,500 dues + late fees. I ran on a platform of creative solutions and compassion, all the while, not setting a precedent for future issues. I believe in turning this lady over to the attorney for collections, and likely a lien on her house....But
While everyone else talks a good game, the son of this woman, who now has power of attorney for her offered a payment plan. Board rejected it, and my first order of business was to reply on how to handle the situation.
My reply...have the son contact me, I'll have the late fees waived, and I'll personally cut a check to the association to get her whole, and they can then make the payments to me. This is a one time deal only, cuz at the end of the day, if you can't afford to live here, plan accordingly. Risky? Yes. If I lose it all, I'm in a position to do so, but I'm still a believer in it takes a Village, and that we should honor and take care of our elders. I will never speak of this in the community, other than in generic (another home owner stepped in). When you have the means, you take care of people.
Psalm 37:21 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.
we had to get some road work done last year, one neighbor stiffed the fund, so i had to cover their share.
Datawiz
03-25-2022, 7:20pm
Psalm 37:21 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.
we had to get some road work done last year, one neighbor stiffed the fund, so i had to cover their share.
Doug, I may have my faults, but at the end of the day, I care about, and take care of people. For me it's the Golden Rule.
You background lends itself that you are a person of honesty and integrity.
Stay the course as you know right from wrong. It won't be easy. Good Luck! :seasix:
simpleman68
03-28-2022, 7:21pm
Doug, I may have my faults, but at the end of the day, I care about, and take care of people. For me it's the Golden Rule.
I'd vouch for that; your faults I mean. :D
Good deal, Craig. Compassion, properly placed, is a most gracious thing to do.
Scott
When the first payment is due:
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