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Loco Vette
04-21-2011, 4:21pm
Spring has sprung, and my convertible is 17 years old, and starting to show its age, and I am thinking about upgrading.
Took a look at this car yesterday:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/CathDoc/SL.jpg
Asking price is $88,999.
I looked it over, not really fond of the mileage (36,000) but a mismatched seam on the front fascia/fender lineup made me CarFax it and yes it was involved in a front end collision.
The dealer has had the car advertised for the same price since October.
Assuming that the mileage and accident history do not cause me to take a pass (and in reality they probably will), what would VBOT take off of the value of the car for the accident history? Kelley Blue Book puts the car in "excellent" condition at $88675.
What say almighty VBOT?
vetteman9368
04-21-2011, 4:29pm
$70k considering the damage
lspencer534
04-21-2011, 4:30pm
I would take a minimum of 20% off the price because of the accident damage.
doesn't look like a 70-80K car
what is it?
Loco Vette
04-21-2011, 4:33pm
doesn't look like a 70-80K car
what is it?
2009 M-B SL600
Twin turbo V12
2009 M-B SL600
Twin turbo V12
Ok
100K+ new?
Loco Vette
04-21-2011, 4:34pm
Ok
100K+ new?
I think something like $104-110
I think something like $104-110
husband of a lady friend of my wife bought a new Benz...SL something...I heard it cost 100K or something...probably similar to the one you looked at.
this guy is funny...all over the map w/ cars...he had a Cadillac CTS...then a Chrysler Magnum...a C6 Z...then a new Camaro...now the Benz.
Kerrmudgeon
04-21-2011, 4:43pm
Fresh out of warranty probably. Most likely a leased car that's been flogged for 3-4 years, and came in. Go in very low(high 50's), because the labor and parts will quickly eat up the difference. Check with the service dept, about how much a typical oil change, tune-up or alignment will cost you. Does it have new tires?$$$ Then, get your butt out of there!:thumbs:
Millenium Vette
04-21-2011, 4:44pm
It looks like it went through the auction on 8/4/2010 for $79,000. I would be more concerned about how much damage was done than the mileage or Carfax report. Does it look like just the bumper was replaced or has the whole front been fixed up? If it was noticeable, I wonder how well it has been repaired. :cheers:
Mark C5
04-21-2011, 4:46pm
If you buy it just remember, while a Car Fax accident listing may not be much of an issue for you now it certainly will be when it comes time to trade or sell it.
Loco Vette
04-21-2011, 4:46pm
It looks like it went through the auction on 8/4/2010 for $79,000. I would be more concerned about how much damage was done than the mileage or Carfax report. Does it look like just the bumper was replaced or has the whole front been fixed up? If it was noticeable, I wonder how well it has been repaired. :cheers:
That's a good question. Do you think the repairing dealer would tell me what was done to it if I could track them down? It was done in GA.
Don't touch it without a deep discount and a very good warranty.
Millenium Vette
04-21-2011, 4:51pm
If you buy it just remember, while a Car Fax accident listing may not be much of an issue for you now it certainly will be when it comes time to trade or sell it.
Clean Carfax or not, plan on losing your ass on an $89,000 used car, but you are correct that it can make a difference in selling it yourself. :cheers:
That's a good question. Do you think the repairing dealer would tell me what was done to it if I could track them down? It was done in GA.
There is only one way to find out, do you know or can find out who fixed it?
Loco Vette
04-21-2011, 4:56pm
Clean Carfax or not, plan on losing your ass on an $89,000 used car, but you are correct that it can make a difference in selling it yourself. :cheers:
I sorta figured, but I also figured that someone lost at least $15-20k on this car based on new to now, so I would do the same if I went new :-(
There is only one way to find out, do you know or can find out who fixed it?
Gonna do some snooping, Heck, I'm bored :D
Millenium Vette
04-21-2011, 5:07pm
I sorta figured, but I also figured that someone lost at least $15-20k on this car based on new to now, so I would do the same if I went new :-(
Gonna do some snooping, Heck, I'm bored :D
I sorta figured that you sorta figured that you already knew that. :D I think the 600's were around $140G's new in 2009. If they have been sitting on it since before October, they're real anxious to move it if they have any smarts. I would assume they are the ones that picked it up at auction for $79K, they would be smart to off it if they get an offer anywhere close to that. 36,000 miles won't hurt that car, but it kills the resale. :cheers:
I'd pass!!
FYI Val, my neighbor who is a doctor, and just happened to get arrested the other day for sexual assault on a patient has an SL55 AMG, and an SL65 AMG, want me to check to see if they might be FS? I'm pretty sure he was already trying to sell the 55...
vetteman9368
04-21-2011, 5:20pm
I'd pass!!
FYI Val, my neighbor who is a doctor, and just happened to get arrested the other day for sexual assault on a patient has an SL55 AMG, and an SL65 AMG, want me to check to see if they might be FS? I'm pretty sure he was already trying to sell the 55...
His parents each have one
Loco Vette
04-21-2011, 5:22pm
I'd pass!!
FYI Val, my neighbor who is a doctor, and just happened to get arrested the other day for sexual assault on a patient has an SL55 AMG, and an SL65 AMG, want me to check to see if they might be FS? I'm pretty sure he was already trying to sell the 55...
Yesplease!:D
C5SilverBullet
04-21-2011, 5:25pm
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/08/zr1-1st-drive-1280-46_opt.jpg
Rapid Roger
04-21-2011, 5:26pm
For MSRP $71K you can get a CTS-V(556HP) coupe with a 4 yr warranty and much less in maintainance costs if you keep it more than 4 yrs.......And.....They are beautiful....:)
C5SilverBullet
04-21-2011, 5:32pm
For MSRP $71K you can get a CTS-V(556HP) coupe with a 4 yr warranty and much less in maintainance costs if you keep it more than 4 yrs.......And.....They are beautiful....:)
Mercedes > Cadillac
Mark C5
04-21-2011, 5:58pm
For MSRP $71K you can get a CTS-V(556HP) coupe with a 4 yr warranty and much less in maintainance costs if you keep it more than 4 yrs.......And.....They are beautiful....:)
But you gotta admit, a twin turbo'd V12 is way cool. In this case though, I'm just not a big believer in buying someone else's problems. Got enough of my own. :)
Mercedes > Cadillac
:withstupid:
Those SL's are :Sexy:
But I would pass on that one :ack:
2009 Mercedes-Benz SL63 AMG Naples, Florida | Ambassador Auto Sales (http://2640.ecarlist.com/web/used/Mercedes-Benz-SL63-2009-Naples/1234262/)
But I would pass on that one :ack:
:iagree: that seems a lot of a used Merc still.
I would go this way for a little bit less:
Used 2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage BEAUTIFUL BLACK/RED VANTAGE COUPE!! For Sale | Atlanta GA (http://www.motorcarsofgeorgia.com/used/Aston%20Martin/2007-Aston+Martin-V8+Vantage-3f6ed6550a0a0002015b571e166bd6da.htm)
:yesnod:
Datawiz
04-21-2011, 6:18pm
If you're going to spend that kinda coin, the car better be flawless, and low mileage. I say no, due to the damage.
Datawiz
04-21-2011, 6:19pm
2009 Mercedes-Benz SL63 AMG Naples, Florida | Ambassador Auto Sales (http://2640.ecarlist.com/web/used/Mercedes-Benz-SL63-2009-Naples/1234262/)
I can go look at this one, should you want me to. Looks just like my buddy's SL63. Kinda fun ride. Too many electrical nannies for my taste. If that car had a 6-speed manual, I'd be all over it.
Joecooool
04-21-2011, 6:57pm
I tried to order an SL two years ago and walked when I found out they don't offer a manual transmission.
I can go look at this one, should you want me to. Looks just like my buddy's SL63. Kinda fun ride. Too many electrical nannies for my taste. If that car had a 6-speed manual, I'd be all over it.
You ever stopped by just to look at his cars?
bunch-0-ballah's up in dis here thread :yesnod:
Uber-high mileage and an accident that Ray Charles can see?
Pass.
2009 Mercedes-Benz SL63 AMG Naples, Florida | Ambassador Auto Sales (http://2640.ecarlist.com/web/used/Mercedes-Benz-SL63-2009-Naples/1234262/)
Waaaay better deal.
Datawiz
04-21-2011, 9:29pm
You ever stopped by just to look at his cars?
No, never been there. Naples is 1/2 hour away. I'm not "just there", unless I have a destination and a reason to be there.
Kerrmudgeon
04-21-2011, 10:21pm
That Aston Martin has got to be a great deal, only 15K miles? That's almost new! And a lot more prestige than the Krautmeister, and no previous stuff-ups.:thumbs:
vetteman9368
04-21-2011, 10:33pm
2001 Ferrari 360 Spider for Sale - 851634 - duPontREGISTRY.com (http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=851634)
but the Aston is damn Nice too
GRN ENVY
04-21-2011, 11:13pm
I can go look at this one, should you want me to. Looks just like my buddy's SL63. Kinda fun ride. Too many electrical nannies for my taste. If that car had a 6-speed manual, I'd be all over it.
:iagree:
Entropy
04-21-2011, 11:15pm
For that price, those doors better be heavy and the former owner needs to be from Bolivia.
Loco Vette
04-22-2011, 8:07am
Well, I made a stab at it for $80 and they wouldn't budge off the price. I really want a convertible wiht some oomph to it, and since I have the Z for manual shifting fun the automatic thing doesn't get to me much. Good luck to them finding another sucker.
Repo/Data, thanks for the offers but $85 is about the limit right now for anything I don't HAVE to have. Gorgeous car tho!
Well, I made a stab at it for $80 and they wouldn't budge off the price. I really want a convertible wiht some oomph to it, and since I have the Z for manual shifting fun the automatic thing doesn't get to me much. Good luck to them finding another sucker.
Good for you! Screw them, it's their problem what THEY paid for it, not you.
C5SilverBullet
04-22-2011, 9:23am
A Rod Mercedes locally has an SL65 AMG Black Series... Only asking $200k or so. :lol:
Story cars are bad news.
High-dollar story cars are like an STD you can't pass on.
Nemesis
04-22-2011, 9:39am
Repo/Data, thanks for the offers but $85 is about the limit right now for anything I don't HAVE to have. Gorgeous car tho!
You wouldn't happen to be hiring, would you?!
Millenium Vette
04-22-2011, 9:40am
Well, I made a stab at it for $80 and they wouldn't budge off the price. I really want a convertible wiht some oomph to it, and since I have the Z for manual shifting fun the automatic thing doesn't get to me much. Good luck to them finding another sucker.
Repo/Data, thanks for the offers but $85 is about the limit right now for anything I don't HAVE to have. Gorgeous car tho!
They didn't counter or anything? What a bunch of dumb asses. They probably have more than $80k in it now from carrying it for months and fixing a few things, but they could at least counter with a break-even number that gets them out of a problem and any car that is past 90 days on the lot is a problem. When I was in the biz and faced with a loss we could live with on a "90-dayer" and could earn a new customer, they would be leaving in their new car. I was known for saying we are running a car lot here, not a fu**in' museum.
I bet if you shop a little bit and can handle a few miles you can get into an SL63 pretty easily. :cheers:
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