Stuff mechanics hear.....

[Bill]

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[Bill]

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[RMVette]

51891

[Mike Mercury]

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[RMVette]

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I would kill the engineer for designing that.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I would kill the engineer for designing that.

Yet many people thing being an engineer makes one intelligent by default. After working with them for the last 10 years I can assure you some are, but some are complete idiots.

[Earthquake Driver]

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[RMVette]

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:rofl:

[snide]

Yet many people thing being an engineer makes one intelligent by default. After working with them for the last 10 years I can assure you some are, but some are complete idiots.

What?

[JetMechZ16]

Yet many people thing being an engineer makes one intelligent by default. After working with them for the last 10 years I can assure you some are, but some are complete idiots.

:iagree: I have to drag them out by the ear into the field and show them how stupid they are sometimes.

[Mike Mercury]

What?


think... thing;

they're spelled the same, but pronounced differently.

[Rodnok1]

I would kill the engineer for designing that.Northstar engine, not as bad as you'd think. They seldom go bad since warm and dry location.
Beats laying on back under oily engine dropping exhaust for sure.
Now the crossover gaskets are a total bitch to change at 3 hrs plus.

[the new me]

:iagree: I have to drag them out by the ear into the field and show them how stupid they are sometimes.

Was the ear designed for engineer-dragging?

[Loco Vette]

51891

I am amazed that didn't tear up the backing plate first!

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Northstar engine,.

I think those primarily went into Cadillac didn't they? And didn't they have head gasket issues that plagued many of them?

[Rodnok1]

I think those primarily went into Cadillac didn't they? And didn't they have head gasket issues that plagued many of them?It started life as indy car engine. I saw them in Al Unser Jr team back when. They put in Cadillacs mainly but buick and believe Olds saw some. Some shortstars(4.0) were around.
Not a gasket issue... Fine thread head bolts into porous alum block issue. Went away mostly in 2000 with redesign.
The 1st attempt to fix by GM was a timesert and those failed also. Second timeserts worked along with normserts and studs sold by a Canadian guy(expesive though).
I've done a couple engines on these and they have a shitload of pieces to them.
Worse than HG is half case leak and early rear seal one piece designs. Those cost more than HG to fix.

[RMVette]

:iagree: I have to drag them out by the ear into the field and show them how stupid they are sometimes.

Hey, I are one.... :rofl:

[JetMechZ16]

Yet many people thing being an engineer makes one intelligent by default. After working with them for the last 10 years I can assure you some are, but some are complete idiots.

Hey, I are one.... :rofl:

If you design everything from your desk without actually doing a little field review work I'd be dragging you by the ear too. AND NO!!!! The 3d model does not suffice!

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Not a gasket issue... Fine thread head bolts into porous alum block issue..
So the bolts pulled out of the block and the result was a leaking head gasket?

[RMVette]

If you design everything from your desk without actually doing a little field review work I'd be dragging you by the ear too. AND NO!!!! The 3d model does not suffice!

I'm in building automation systems and been doing it since '79...and yes, field work is essential in our lives.

[Rodnok1]

So the bolts pulled out of the block and the result was a leaking head gasket?Yep... 97 was the worst year statically from unscientific poll.

[thecornerman]

So the bolts pulled out of the block and the result was a leaking head gasket?I worked at Harvey Cadillac as a tech and 1 person did all of them, full time job.
I believe that it took 2 days each

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I worked at Harvey Cadillac as a tech and 1 person did all of them, full time job.
I believe that it took 2 days each

So maybe $500.00 in parts and $1600.00 in labor give or take?

[Rodnok1]

I worked at Harvey Cadillac as a tech and 1 person did all of them, full time job.
I believe that it took 2 days eachNot sure what book time is but that's about right. Took me a long time as had to order parts on the 98. Dropping the cradle the easy part. :slap:

[Aerovette]

51891

I helped a co-worker fix his brakes in our parking lot and they looked like this. :willy:

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Opti-Spark

[JetMechZ16]

Opti-Spark

Sputters-N-Stalls :kimblair:

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Sputters-N-Stalls :kimblair:

:kimblair:

[Mike Mercury]

https://youtu.be/BrimMyOoEDA

[JetMechZ16]

:kimblair:

No no, Sputters-N-Stalls is what the mechanic hears as his customers try to drive away as he waves goodbye.

See that? I spelt "goodbye" correctly. :yesnod:

[thecornerman]

Not sure what book time is but that's about right. Took me a long time as had to order parts on the 98. Dropping the cradle the easy part. :slap:He pulled it out the top, had it out before noon
Tore it down to like the pic shows
It was all coming off anyways, said it took 8 hours off from the repair time

[thecornerman]

So maybe $500.00 in parts and $1600.00 in labor give or take?It was warranty but customer pay would be more like $4000

[Rodnok1]

So maybe $500.00 in parts and $1600.00 in labor give or take?

Throw a few hundred on both if dealer work, 2500 usually.

I did the last one for about 1k total but I replaced a bunch of stuff besides HG.
Guy that sells studs gets over 700 just for studs IIRC. Ouch....

[Dan Dlabay]

I worked in quality for 35 years. The company I worked for is a supplier to automotive. 1 problem I have seen through the years is that many of the design engineers have no concept of how to produce a part they designed. Many times we would get prints and have go back to the customer and tell them this can't be done in a stamping operation. I did notice in the last several years our manufacturing was getting involved in customer design so that the part can be manufactured :cert:

[Hardluck]

No no, Sputters-N-Stalls is what the mechanic hears as his customers try to drive away as he waves goodbye.

See that? I spelt "goodbye" correctly. :yesnod:

STFU

[73sbVert]

Hey, I are one.... :rofl:

Me too! A genuine "rocket scientist" no less! :D :hurray:

Fortunately a lot of my technical years was a tech on various ships, figuring out how to make things work.
Then I got my engineering degree, but spent most of my time working on the assembly or test floor. Learned a lot of DFMA as well.

I'm NOT one of "those engineers"! Field test and engineering was my forte, especially for new development products (gun systems and missiles). :yesnod:

[73sbVert]

If you design everything from your desk without actually doing a little field review work I'd be dragging you by the ear too. AND NO!!!! The 3d model does not suffice!

The LPD 17 project had a several month delay in that it was completely designed by CAD. Upon seeing the real thing, someone noticed that the well door operator could not see the safety lights from the console, since there was a huge ventilation shaft in the way.
Among other things...

The INSURV inspection message took 3 individual messages because the number of infractions was longer than the "REMARKS" section allowed, twice! (and that's LOTS of allowed characters in that field...)

The new LCS's are no better. I'm SOOOOO glad I'm not active duty anymore, no way would I take orders to go on ANY of these ships!

[09CTSV]

I could describe about a million screw ups from the arm chair designers. The last ship was a DDG, built well but with a bunch of items you would look at and think how the hell did they design that.

[JRD77VET]

I worked in quality for 35 years. The company I worked for is a supplier to automotive. 1 problem I have seen through the years is that many of the design engineers have no concept of how to produce a part they designed. Many times we would get prints and have go back to the customer and tell them this can't be done in a stamping operation. I did notice in the last several years our manufacturing was getting involved in customer design so that the part can be manufactured :cert:

Best engineer I ever worked with / under was Claire Miller. Claire put himself thru college working in a machine shop at night.

I worked with him for 12 years before he retired and I could count all the mistakes he made on one hand with fingers left over.

[outrunm]

Northstar engine, not as bad as you'd think. They seldom go bad since warm and dry location.
Beats laying on back under oily engine dropping exhaust for sure.
Now the crossover gaskets are a total bitch to change at 3 hrs plus.

Head gasket will fail long before the starter anyway.. :rofl:

[JetMechZ16]

I'm in building automation systems and been doing it since '79...and yes, field work is essential in our lives.

Me too! A genuine "rocket scientist" no less! :D :hurray:

Fortunately a lot of my technical years was a tech on various ships, figuring out how to make things work.
Then I got my engineering degree, but spent most of my time working on the assembly or test floor. Learned a lot of DFMA as well.

I'm NOT one of "those engineers"! Field test and engineering was my forte, especially for new development products (gun systems and missiles). :yesnod:

Tell me what's wrong with this picture.

51955

[MadInNc]

Aero was here.....:leaving:

[thecornerman]

Tell me what's wrong with this picture.



51955If that's a yernal I'm going in the nearest corner

[snide]

If that's a yernal I'm going in the nearest corner

A what now? :confused5:

[thecornerman]

A what now? :confused5:A yernal
A urnal
A pisser
One of those!

[snide]

A yernal
A urnal
A pisser
One of those!

Do you mean urinal?

[thecornerman]

Do you mean urinal?Ya, that

[JetMechZ16]

Ya, that

Its not a urinal! It's the drain/gutters on the side of a 150' tall concrete stair tower. Does there seem to be something missing?

[thecornerman]

I'm guessing 10' of drain pipe

[snide]

Its not a urinal! It's the drain/gutters on the side of a 150' tall concrete stair tower. Does there seem to be something missing?

The urinal seems to be missing part of the drain pipe. And a p-trap.

[JetMechZ16]

I'm guessing 10' of drain pipe

The urinal seems to be missing part of the drain pipe. And a p-trap.

Now look above the "urinal"

[thecornerman]

Now look above the "urinal"The missing 10' of pipe

[JetMechZ16]

The missing 10' of pipe

The structural steel and the drains clash. They are trying to occupy the same space. There are numerous examples of this throughout the site. I pointed this out during the plants construction. But due to the rushed construction it was accepted as is. This should have been caught during the design phase.

[thecornerman]

Somethings take a back seat to common sense

[markids77]

Aero was here.....:leaving:

That'll be fine. Probably taken at the Roadkill zip tie drags.

[JetMechZ16]

Somethings take a back seat to common sense

Some things do. Some of the things during construction were presented as cost savings in fact the were a huge waste of money and materials. Example. The 5th floor of this building was to be enclosed from the elements.the materials were purchased and on site. 80%of the work for this was completed. Then there was a push for savings. They opted to throw the siding away and claimed the labor cost for not installing it as savings.