Bobulinski

[z06psi]

I believe this guy. He knows too much detail.:yesnod:

Hunter's laptop started this house of cards falling.

[Bill]

All the MSM has to do is bury the story and not talk about it, which is what they are doing.


It's a damning interview. Guy seems legit.

[z06psi]

All the MSM has to do is bury the story and not talk about it, which is what they are doing.


It's a damning interview. Guy seems legit.

Honestly I DGAFF about the media.


What is our DOJ doing about this?:yesnod:

[Bill]

Honestly I DGAFF about the media.


What is our DOJ doing about this?:yesnod:

Burying the story and probably threatening Bobulinski the same way they threatened the computer repair guy who gave the FBI Hunter's laptop over a year ago.

I wouldn't doubt if that laptop was destroyed long ago by the FBI. Had the computer repair guy not made copies, we'd never know any of this, just as if Bobulinski didn't come forward with his electronic paper trail, we wouldn't know his part, either.

Trump has to win and boot Wray, Haspel, Barr, and a shitload of other coverup artists and start over. I suspect Durham also hasn't done shit but cover up as well.

[Cybercowboy]

Really we are watching history in the making. It may be the history of our demise or the history of a new era for our country and the world, but it's history for sure.

Beware the famous curse: May you live in interesting times.

(Trump 365 btw)

[BOTY]

:sadangel: another dumped uncovered story. :yesnod:

[TripleBlack]

I think Arkancide may be in his future.

[snide]

I think Arkancide may be in his future.

Not until the Clintons are implicated.

[Mike Mercury]

MSM... bury the story and not talk about it, which is what they are doing.


that's how cults function.

[Stangkiller]

I’m afraid it’s too little too late. We’re seriously on track to elect and then (hopefully) impeach a president handing over the reigns to a radical left wing party with Harris and AOC driving the bus. Wtf is going on in this country.

[Jeff '79]

:sleep:

Giuliani's cred is mud lately.
Borat saw to that.
Where has Bill Barr been lately? Seems like he's done with Trump' BS and he's willing to just let the cards fall where they may at this point.
This was such an obvious attempt by the lying Trumpers to smear the candidate with only 2 weeks to go before the election that it just wouldn't have ever stuck.
Trump's dog & pony show has been exposed for what it really is. A total waste of 4 years.

[mrvette]

:sleep:

Giuliani's cred is mud lately.
Borat saw to that.
Where has Bill Barr been lately? Seems like he's done with Trump' BS and he's willing to just let the cards fall where they may at this point.
This was such an obvious attempt by the lying Trumpers to smear the candidate with only 2 weeks to go before the election that it just wouldn't have ever stuck.
Trump's dog & pony show has been exposed for what it really is. A total waste of 4 years.

Nitwit......:issues:

[Jeff '79]

Nitwit......:issues:

Excellent retort Gene :seasix:

[Rikki Z-06]

:sleep:

Giuliani's cred is mud lately.
Borat saw to that.
Where has Bill Barr been lately? Seems like he's done with Trump' BS and he's willing to just let the cards fall where they may at this point.
This was such an obvious attempt by the lying Trumpers to smear the candidate with only 2 weeks to go before the election that it just wouldn't have ever stuck.
Trump's dog & pony show has been exposed for what it really is. A total waste of 4 years.

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

:seasix: Looks like his propaganda machine just may best the reality show.

[z06psi]

:seasix: Looks like his propaganda machine just may best the reality show.

How Nazi of you. :yesnod:

[Rikki Z-06]

How Nazi of you. :yesnod:

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

:popcorns:

[Jeff '79]

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

:popcorns:

Pedo, Nazi, I forget the other monikers that you've given me in the true spirit of a Trumper......
ICGAFF and just consider the source totally irrelivant.:cert:

[Bill]

:sleep:

Giuliani's cred is mud lately.
Borat saw to that.
Where has Bill Barr been lately? Seems like he's done with Trump' BS and he's willing to just let the cards fall where they may at this point.
This was such an obvious attempt by the lying Trumpers to smear the candidate with only 2 weeks to go before the election that it just wouldn't have ever stuck.
Trump's dog & pony show has been exposed for what it really is. A total waste of 4 years.

Hunter taped himself bragging that his family is in business with 'the ****ing spy chief of China.' You can compare the voice with his interview with ABC's Nightline and it's the same. No issues with that? Not even a little curious?


https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/biden-recording-spy-chief-and-sdny/

[Rikki Z-06]

Hunter taped himself bragging that his family is in business with 'the ****ing spy chief of China.' You can compare the voice with his interview with ABC's Nightline and it's the same. No issues with that? Not even a little curious?


https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/biden-recording-spy-chief-and-sdny/

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[z06psi]

Pedo, Nazi, I forget the other monikers that you've given me in the true spirit of a American......
ICGAFF and just consider the source totally irrelivant.:cert:

*irrelevant you dumb****.

fixed BTW

[Jeff '79]

Hunter taped himself bragging that his family is in business with 'the ****ing spy chief of China.' You can compare the voice with his interview with ABC's Nightline and it's the same. No issues with that? Not even a little curious?


https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/biden-recording-spy-chief-and-sdny/

That's ok, he's not running for president. Plus, if this tape was so damning, why hasn't it been subpoenaed and presented and someone charged?.
Why? Because it is BS.
Trump makes so much shit up that people just don't believe anything he says anymore.

[Jeff '79]

*irrelevant you dumb****.

fixed BTW

Wow, amazing. Now you're relevant. :spdchk:

[Rikki Z-06]

*irrelevant you dumb****.

fixed BTW

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[z06psi]

That's ok, he's not running for president. Plus, if this tape was so damning, why hasn't it been subpoenaed and presented and someone charged?.
Why? Because it is BS.
Trump makes so much shit up that people just don't believe anything he says anymore.

How does it feel to be wrong all the time?


DOJ doesn't want to be seen as an election tipper after the illegal HRC email server.

[Jeff '79]

How does it feel to be wrong all the time?


DOJ doesn't want to be seen as an election tipper after the illegal HRC email server.

Ohhhh... Then perfect ! :seasix:

Like it makes a difference at this point.
How does it feel to drown in shit ?
Keep eating it and let us all know.

[z06psi]

Ohhhh... Then perfect ! :seasix:

Like it makes a difference at this point.
How does it feel to drown in shit ?
Keep eating it and let us all know.

:funnier:

Speaking of irrelevant.

[Jeff '79]

:funnier:

Speaking of irrelevant.

oh my, yes

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-biden-did-tell-200942049.html


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[z06psi]

oh my, yes

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-biden-did-tell-200942049.html


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

What in the blue **** does that have to do with the thread?

By all means. Continue your idiocy. We are all enjoying it. :yesnod:

[Rikki Z-06]

What in the blue **** does that have to do with the thread?

By all means. Continue your idiocy. We are all enjoying it. :yesnod:

:funnier::funnier::funnier:

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

Republicans are so Fk'd due to the Red Headed Clown Cult.
Enjoy the bed that you are making. :dance:

[Rikki Z-06]

Republicans are so Fk'd due to the Red Headed Clown Cult.
Enjoy the bed that you are making. :dance:

:popcorns::popcorns:

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

Ya, now here's a guy I'd do business with. :sadangel:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-maneuvered-way-trouble-chicago-121415189.html

[Bill]

That's ok, he's not running for president. Plus, if this tape was so damning, why hasn't it been subpoenaed and presented and someone charged?.
Why? Because it is BS.
Trump makes so much shit up that people just don't believe anything he says anymore.

This right here is a valid question. Compare and contrast the years of reporting and investigation of what we now know is a total hoax, Trump colluding with Russia, Trump being impeached for asking Ukraine to investigate the crimes of the Bidens with this.......the Bidens actually being in business with Ukraine, China, and others.

Why the difference? Why HASN'T anyone been charged with the spying on Trump's campaign (besides Clinesmith)? Why HASN'T Hunter, Jim, or Joe Biden been arrested? Why is the MSM doing a total blackout of this story when they went wall to wall against Trump? Why?

Well, it could be that Trump is just ****ing dirty, but years of investigation and reporting just couldn't prove it, but we just KNOW it.....or, it could be that the DoJ, the MSM, Hollywood, etc. are in the tank for the leftists and will do anything, stop at nothing, to protect their own. And they say, the best defense is a good offense. The left has been on offense since Trump came down the escalator at Trump Tower.

Still, your point stands. If nothing is done about all this, if the Biden's don't go to jail, then our country deserves to fail. It will be in you face banana republic time, and I hate to say it, but it looks like that's how it will be. The FBI had Hunter's laptop, complete with the child porn for a year and.....nothing. The FBI clearly isn't going to go against the Bidens, and it appears Barr is just running out the clock, hoping Trump will lose.

Our only hop is that Trump wins and cleans house, and puts people in who WILL prosecute and won't throw the case, won't give immunity to everyone then drop it.

[TripleBlack]

Not until the Clintons are implicated.


That can't be far away. Pretty sure they wouldn't miss out on something this lucrative.

[Jeff '79]

This right here is a valid question. Compare and contrast the years of reporting and investigation of what we now know is a total hoax, Trump colluding with Russia, Trump being impeached for asking Ukraine to investigate the crimes of the Bidens with this.......the Bidens actually being in business with Ukraine, China, and others.

Why the difference? Why HASN'T anyone been charged with the spying on Trump's campaign (besides Clinesmith)? Why HASN'T Hunter, Jim, or Joe Biden been arrested? Why is the MSM doing a total blackout of this story when they went wall to wall against Trump? Why?

Well, it could be that Trump is just ****ing dirty, but years of investigation and reporting just couldn't prove it, but we just KNOW it.....or, it could be that the DoJ, the MSM, Hollywood, etc. are in the tank for the leftists and will do anything, stop at nothing, to protect their own. And they say, the best defense is a good offense. The left has been on offense since Trump came down the escalator at Trump Tower.

Still, your point stands. If nothing is done about all this, if the Biden's don't go to jail, then our country deserves to fail. It will be in you face banana republic time, and I hate to say it, but it looks like that's how it will be. The FBI had Hunter's laptop, complete with the child porn for a year and.....nothing. The FBI clearly isn't going to go against the Bidens, and it appears Barr is just running out the clock, hoping Trump will lose.

Our only hop is that Trump wins and cleans house, and puts people in who WILL prosecute and won't throw the case, won't give immunity to everyone then drop it.

Settle down man. It'll be ok once Trump is gone.
The country will get back to normal, the conspiracy theories will miraculously disappear, and hopefully, politics will revert back to their past standard of dirt.
It's just got too crazy to keep Trump around any longer, so yes, the powers have beat him at his own game.
Hopefully the Republicans can repair the damage that Trump did to the party, fairly soon,.

[z06psi]

Settle down man. It'll be ok once Trump is gone.
The country will get back to normal, the conspiracy theories will miraculously disappear, and hopefully, politics will revert back to their past standard of dirt.
It's just got too crazy to keep Trump around any longer, so yes, the powers have beat him at his own game.
Hopefully the Republicans can repair the damage that Trump did to the party, fairly soon,.

So you prefer quiet slavery.



Noted.

[Jeff '79]

So you prefer quiet slavery.



Noted.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Are you a whack job 10 yr old posing as an adult?

[z06psi]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Are you a whack job 10 yr old posing as an adult?

Your words reflect exactly what I said.


Not mine.

[Rikki Z-06]

Your words reflect exactly what I said.


Not mine.

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[z06psi]

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

:funnier:

[Rikki Z-06]

:funnier:

:seasix:

[Jeff '79]

Ya, now here's a guy I'd do business with. :sadangel:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-maneuvered-way-trouble-chicago-121415189.html

ttt

[Rikki Z-06]

ttt

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[Hardluck]

Biden Crime Syndicate!:yesnod:


Jeff you've got to be Rim's twin mentally challenged brother.

[Jeff '79]

Biden Crime Syndicate!:yesnod:


Jeff you've got to be Rim's twin mentally challenged brother.

48536

[Hardluck]

48536

OK, Biden Crime Syndicate/Family!

[Jeff '79]

OK

That's what I thought, genius. :spdchk:

[Hardluck]

That's what I thought, genius. :spdchk:

Are you Bidens cabana boi, since you live nearby?

Oh never mind, you're not young enough!:)

[Jeff '79]

Are you Bidens cabana boi, since you live nearby?

Oh never mind, you're not young enough!:)

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

48538


Get back to work boy

[Hardluck]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

48538


Get back to work boy

I see they're collecting your morning smoothie!:seasix:

Enjoy!:yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

I see they're collecting your morning smoothie!:seasix:

Enjoy!:yesnod:

Good one ! :seasix:

[Jeff '79]

FOX is the only channel pumping Bobulinski's fodder.. :rofl::rofl:
The Trump cult must be eating that sn!t up:funnier::funnier::funniest::funnier:

[Rikki Z-06]

FOX is the only channel pumping Bobulinski's fodder.. :rofl::rofl:
The Trump cult must be eating that sn!t up:funnier::funnier::funniest::funnier:

Maybe you should pay attention, you might learn something. :yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

Maybe you should pay attention, you might learn something. :yesnod:

:rofl:
Trump is being taken to the woodshed.
Maybe you can learn something.

[Rikki Z-06]

:rofl:
Trump is being taken to the woodshed.
Maybe you can learn something.

Yeah, okay.

[Jeff '79]

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, OK.... :spdchk:

Tucker Carlson’s Conspiracy Theory Falls Apart

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/tucker-carlson-lost-his-papers-032908745.html

Twitter comments are hilarious:lol:

Tucker Carlson and FOX News are an absolute joke.
FAKE NEWS to the nth...



It's amazing how the Dumpers get sucked into all of those conspiracy theories so easily.
For supposedly edumacated people, they sure don't act so educatedly.

[Bill]

Yeah, OK.... :spdchk:

Tucker Carlson’s Conspiracy Theory Falls Apart

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/tucker-carlson-lost-his-papers-032908745.html

Twitter comments are hilarious:lol:

Tucker Carlson and FOX News are an absolute joke.
FAKE NEWS to the nth...



It's amazing how the Dumpers get sucked into all of those conspiracy theories so easily.
For supposedly edumacated people, they sure don't act so educatedly.


Did you read the whole "article?" They say nothing about Bobulinski's interview, or the emails and audio recordings he already presented during his interview. NOTHING about that. Nothing.

Apparently, more documents were sent via a commercial shipper that mysteriously turned up missing. Hilariousness ensues as we make fun of Tucker for having important shit sent by commercial carrier. Ha ha. Funny.

Yet, the article does nothing to refute the actual story, the actual interview. Nothing about the actual interview, the actual emails presented, or the actual recordings played. Why is that?

[Jeff '79]

Did you read the whole "article?" They say nothing about Bobulinski's interview, or the emails and audio recordings he already presented during his interview. NOTHING about that. Nothing.

Apparently, more documents were sent via a commercial shipper that mysteriously turned up missing. Hilariousness ensues as we make fun of Tucker for having important shit sent by commercial carrier. Ha ha. Funny.

Yet, the article does nothing to refute the actual story, the actual interview. Nothing about the actual interview, the actual emails presented, or the actual recordings played. Why is that?

Bill, you know as well as I do, that he said, she said won't stand up in court. Produce proof ! That along with testimony is the only thing that will nail someone.
Why do you think that no other media outlet wanted to touch this?
Not one shred of documented proof, that's why.
FOX is a joke. They went with it and now look the fool.

The timing and the fact that Giulianni was shopping it also made the entire thing smell bad.

[Bill]

Bill, you know as well as I do that he said, she said won't stand up in court. Produce proof ! That along with testimony is the only thing that will nail someone.
Why do you think that no other media outlet wanted to touch this?
Not one shred of documented proof, that's why.
FOX is a joke. They went with it and now look the fool.

The point is, it's not he said, she said.....they have the actual emails. If they were fake, created out of thin air, that can be proven. They can be proven fake. There's audio recordings,one of Hunter bragging about being in business with the '****ing spy chief of China.' If that's a fake, it could be proven to be a fake. No one is showing any proof that these things are fake. No one is even making the claim that they are fake. It's 'Russian disinformation.' Note the rebuttal isn't "It's all fake." If it was fake, the emails were faked, why not just say it? Why not say, these were faked, and here's how we forensically proved they were faked?

Example: Here's an audio of two of the business associates of the Bidens talking. Is this fake? Are the people purportedly on the tape denying this?

Is this a fake recording? Is this recording taken out of context?

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1321616845959553024?s=19

[Jeff '79]

The point is, it's not he said, she said.....they have the actual emails. If they were fake, created out of thin air, that can be proven. They can be proven fake. There's audio recordings,one of Hunter bragging about being in business with the '****ing spy chief of China.' If that's a fake, it could be proven to be a fake. No one is showing any proof that these things are fake. No one is even making the claim that they are fake. It's 'Russian disinformation.' Note the rebuttal isn't "It's all fake." If it was fake, the emails were faked, why not just say it? Why not say, these were faked, and here's how we forensically proved they were faked?

All valid points.
I can't answer any of them, as I have no idea if what they claim that they have is even true. Not only that, the sources are totally suspect as well.
Recordings??? Who are those people talking? Did you have a voice expert compare them to who you claim that they are?
I can't believe that you, of all people, fall for the BS Conspiracy BS.
If there was legit proof, it would be pursued. It's FAKE POLITICAL Conspiracy BS

[Bill]

All valid points.
I can't answer any of them, as I have no idea if what they claim that they have is even true.

Let's just play Devil's Advocate for a minute. Let's say, just for argument's sake, that what they claim to have IS true. Would it make any difference to you, or would you still be an enthusiastic Biden supporter?

There are no wrong answers, it's just a hypothetical question.

[Jeff '79]

Let's just play Devil's Advocate for a minute. Let's say, just for argument's sake, that what they claim to have IS true. Would it make any difference to you, or would you still be an enthusiastic Biden supporter?

There are no wrong answers, it's just a hypothetical question.

Compared to Trump's treasonous actions, no, it would not at this point .
I have two choices.
I'm not saying that either are acceptable to me.
What I am saying is that I'll take the lesser evil.
4 more years of Trump will kill this country.
Look how people on this forum are at each other's throats, let alone the general public. Trump is a stupid man who thinks that he can PT Barnum his way through life. This is reality , not a reality show. He is ruining so many lives with his personal agendas and lack of attention to the real issues.
Proof. You have it Bill. Go present it to the DA.

[mrvette]

Compared to Trump's treasonous actions, no, it would not at this point .
I have two choices.
I'm not saying that either are acceptable to me.
What I am saying is that I'll take the lesser evil.
4 more years of Trump will kill this country.
Look how people on this forum are at each other's throats, let alone the general public. Trump is a stupid man who thinks that he can PT Barnum his way through life. This is reality , not a reality show. He is ruining so many lives with his personal agendas and lack of attention to the real issues.
Proof. You have it Bill. Go present it to the DA.

It's all you have, just the opposite of the TRUTH!!!!:issues:

[Jeff '79]

It's all you have, just the opposite of the TRUTH!!!!:issues:

Really Gene ? Who Does This ???

Trump paints apocalyptic portrait of life in US under Biden

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-paints-apocalyptic-portrait-life-043454097.html

Do you really believe that a sitting president is spewing this vitriol ????
It's not just the opposite of the truth. Wake up !

[Steve_R]

Yeah, OK.... :spdchk:

Tucker Carlson’s Conspiracy Theory Falls Apart

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/tucker-carlson-lost-his-papers-032908745.html

Twitter comments are hilarious:lol:

Tucker Carlson and FOX News are an absolute joke.
FAKE NEWS to the nth...



It's amazing how the Dumpers get sucked into all of those conspiracy theories so easily.
For supposedly edumacated people, they sure don't act so educatedly.

Badmouthing Fox News based on Huffpost info. Hiliarious. :rofl::rofl::rofl:


Compared to Trump's treasonous actions, no, it would not at this point .
I have two choices.
I'm not saying that either are acceptable to me.
What I am saying is that I'll take the lesser evil.
4 more years of Trump will kill this country.
Look how people on this forum are at each other's throats, let alone the general public. Trump is a stupid man who thinks that he can PT Barnum his way through life. This is reality , not a reality show. He is ruining so many lives with his personal agendas and lack of attention to the real issues.
Proof. You have it Bill. Go present it to the DA.

To the point in red, do you honestly believe that if Biden is POTUS the half of the population that voted against him will quietly STFU, hug and sing Kumbaya? This country is polarized, and that won't change regardless of who the POTUS is.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

4 more years of Trump will kill this country.

Look how people on this forum are at each other's throats, let alone the general public. Trump is a stupid man who thinks that he can PT Barnum his way through life. This is reality , not a reality show.

He is ruining so many lives with his personal agendas and lack of attention to the real issues.
Proof. You have it Bill. Go present it to the DA.


bolded:
Wrong...it's the hate of Trump that is killing the country because the MSM pushes that particular agenda.
When the media was unbiased several years ago, people were accustomed to thinking for themselves, now; they let the MSM tell them what is truth and what isn't.

red:
The forum is not at each others throat...you are.
You come here and troll....period
The forum was quiet and getting along just fine while you were gone.



blue:
Wrong again.
People are responsible for their own lives and happiness.
The old saying:
"life is what you make of it"

[Jeff '79]

You have my answers. Strats & Steve want to beat a dead horse.
Let the cards fall where they may on Tuesday.:seasix:

[Steve_R]

You have my answers. Strats & Steve want to beat a dead horse.
Let the cards fall where they may on Tuesday.:seasix:

Well, there ya go. No intelligent response so, once again, "I'm out of here." Classic Jeffie. :lol:

I recently read a study by a large University that placed most of the blame for the unrest and division in this country not on the two parties, not on the POTUS, not on racism or any specific issue, but squarely on social media, mainly FaceBook, Twitter and similar platforms. Those things promote divisiveness since that's what gets posts, which attract more advertisers with their big money.

[Jeff '79]

Well, there ya go. No intelligent response so, once again, "I'm out of here." Classic Jeffie. :lol:

I recently read a study by a large University that placed most of the blame for the unrest and division in this country not on the two parties, not on the POTUS, not on racism or any specific issue, but squarely on social media, mainly FaceBook, Twitter and similar platforms. Those things promote divisiveness since that's what gets posts, which attract more advertisers with their big money.

I guess you didn't read the entire thread.

48566

[Strats-N-Vettes]

You have my answers.
Strats & Steve want to beat a dead horse.
Let the cards fall where they may on Tuesday.:seasix:


1.)I've civilly asked you serious questions in the past that you refused to answer.
I know why.

2.)You think you know who I support because I call out the hypocrisy and hate of most Democrats, majority of the MSM, and the supposed leaders in Congress, the Senate, etc....


Fact of the matter is; I cannot stand the pettiness, arrogance, nor the condescending remarks made by Trump.
But you wouldn't know that because you read and react with emotions, instead of reading and comprehension.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

I recently read a study by a large University that placed most of the blame for the unrest and division in this country not on the two parties, not on the POTUS, not on racism or any specific issue, but squarely on social media, mainly FaceBook, Twitter and similar platforms. Those things promote divisiveness since that's what gets posts, which attract more advertisers with their big money.


That's what I was typing too.... :funnier:

[Jeff '79]

That's what I was typing too.... :funnier:

Read the entire thread.
I'm not regurgitating things that I've already posted, just because you're lazy

[Jeff '79]

1.)I've civilly asked you serious questions in the past that you refused to answer.
I know why.

2.)You think you know who I support because I call out the hypocrisy and hate of most Democrats, majority of the MSM, and the supposed leaders in Congress, the Senate, etc....


Fact of the matter is; I cannot stand the pettiness, arrogance, nor the condescending remarks made by Trump.
But you wouldn't know that because you read and react with emotions, instead of reading and comprehension.

I think we're closer in opinion than we both think.
Read the entire thread

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Read the entire thread.
I'm not regurgitating things that I've already posted, just because you're lazy


Reacting with emotions and insults again.

Your assumption is I didn't read the entire thread.

[Jeff '79]

Reacting with emotions and insults again.

Your assumption is I didn't read the entire thread.

I personally DGAFF:cert:

[Steve_R]

Jeff, here's a serious question: Are you voting for Biden, or against Trump?

In my international travels over the past few years I get a lot of questions about how and why we elected Trump. My standard answer is that most people voted against Hillary instead of for Trump, and that we had perhaps the two worst candidates in the history of the nation. It's no better this time; we have Trump again or a senile old man who probably won't last four years. Two shitty candidates is a pretty ****ed up choice.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

I think we're closer in opinion than we both think.
Read the entire thread


I already know this because I read everything you write, and understand what prompts you to write what you do.

*You take every news article written by the MSM at face value, literal, and never research where it comes from, or if it is in fact originated as an opinion piece.
I don't.
And I don't care where it comes from, right or left.

Feeding coy fish in China
Covington Catholic
Brett Kavanaugh
Not denouncing white supremacy.
Russian collusion
Ukraine quid pro quo
nothing burger

No reason to write more of what the MSM spews as facts, you see what I am getting at.


*I also know sometimes you don't believe what is written, but post it here just to stir up crap with the VB members = trolling.

[Jeff '79]

Jeff, here's a serious question: Are you voting for Biden, or against Trump?

In my international travels over the past few years I get a lot of questions about how and why we elected Trump. My standard answer is that most people voted against Hillary instead of for Trump, and that we had perhaps the two worst candidates in the history of the nation. It's no better this time; we have Trump again or a senile old man who probably won't last four years. Two shitty candidates is a pretty ****ed up choice.

Against Trump.
Yep, it's a no win.

[snide]

Against Trump.
Yep, it's a no win.

If you don't want to vote for Trump, fine, don't vote for Trump.

But voting for Biden because you don't like Trump is foolish, IMHO. A better use of your vote would be to write in Mickey Mouse.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

If you don't want to vote for Trump, fine, don't vote for Trump.

But voting for Biden because you don't like Trump is foolish, IMHO. A better use of your vote would be to write in Mickey Mouse.



He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer if you git my drift... ;)

.

[z06psi]

2nd time posting a reference that had no merit on his argument.


Did he not realize we would read it?


Jeff'79 = Juan Williams

:yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

2nd time posting a reference that had no merit on his argument.


Did he not realize we would read it?


Jeff'79 = Juan Williams

:yesnod:

What argument?
Where's you're proof Sherlock ?:rofl:

[z06psi]

What argument?
Where's you're proof Sherlock ?:rofl:

Stop being lazy.

[Jeff '79]

Stop being lazy.



48572

[Jeff '79]

If you don't want to vote for Trump, fine, don't vote for Trump.

But voting for Biden because you don't like Trump is foolish, IMHO. A better use of your vote would be to write in Mickey Mouse.

Yaaa, no fk'n way.

[z06psi]

If you don't want to vote for Trump, fine, don't vote for Trump.

But voting for Biden because you don't like Trump is foolish, IMHO. A better use of your vote would be to write in Mickey Mouse.

#TDS (https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=TDS) :yesnod:

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Stop being lazy.


BAM!

[Jeff '79]

OMG !!!!!!

UPS says it found the lost cache of documents that Tucker Carlson claimed would damage Joe Biden's campaign

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ups-says-found-lost-cache-171022779.html

[Jeff '79]

Well, there ya go. No intelligent response so, once again, "I'm out of here." Classic Jeffie. :lol:

I recently read a study by a large University that placed most of the blame for the unrest and division in this country not on the two parties, not on the POTUS, not on racism or any specific issue, but squarely on social media, mainly FaceBook, Twitter and similar platforms. Those things promote divisiveness since that's what gets posts, which attract more advertisers with their big money.



Even if Joe Biden turns out to be irredeemably corrupt — and I am skeptical that would be the case — he is no match for President Trump's epic underhandedness.

The president and his allies have spent the last few weeks flogging the notion that Biden is a crime lord masquerading as a politician, accusing the former vice president and his son, Hunter, of sketchy deals involving an array of foreign countries. These accusations haven't gained much traction — perhaps because they are of questionable providence: The New York Post reporters who wrote up a "bombshell" report on Hunter Biden refused to have their bylines appear with the story, a sign they weren't confident in it. And NBC reported on Thursday that a document containing allegations against Hunter was disseminated to a conservative activists by a man who doesn't even exist.

So it is difficult to take these allegations seriously. But say, only for the sake of argument, they end up being true. Does that mean anti-corruption voters should turn to Donald Trump as their savior? Of course not.

The list of Trump's unscrupulous activities over last four years is too lengthy to be recounted here. So let us take a look at some of revelations that have emerged just this week:

On Thursday, The New York Times reported the Trump administration had soft-peddled its prosecution of a Turkish bank accused of breaking U.S. sanctions law by funneling money to Iran — a scheme Justice Department lawyers believed was helping fund Iran's nuclear weapons program. But Trump has received millions of dollars of income from businesses in Turkey, leading officials to believe the president was looking out for his own best interest, instead of American interests. "He would interfere in the regular government process to do something for a foreign leader," John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, told the Times. "In anticipation of what? In anticipation of another favor from that person down the road."

Before that, on Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Trump's businesses have taken in at least $2.5 million from U.S. taxpayers — mostly for the privilege of letting the president hang out and do business on his own property. Expenses ranged from $1,000 worth of liquor for White House aides to $3 for the water Trump drank when meeting with the Japanese prime minister. That money is in addition to another $5.6 million Trump's campaign and fundraising committee paid to his businesses to support the boss' effort to stay in office, the Post reported, "turning campaign donations into private revenue." That isn't illegal. But it doesn't look good, either. "It's extremely unusual," one election law expert said
These latest stories add to what we already know about how Trump has used his authority to pressure Ukraine into undermining Biden's candidacy, to help his friends evade punishment for breaking the law, and to push for the investigation of his enemies. Reports have also indicated that foreign governments used Trump's businesses — and the businesses of his children — to curry favor with the president. Presidents aren't supposed to abuse their power or benefit financially from holding office. Trump has done both.

There is a danger of cynicism in this discussion. A friend once told me he didn't mind Trump's corruption so much because he figured all politicians are dishonest and self-dealing. It is likely that the president and his allies throw mud at Biden simply to further that impression. We should expect better from our leaders, of course.

So Joe Biden and his family should not be held beyond scrutiny, by the media or voters. And if Biden is elected and then abuses his authority and office to benefit personally and politically, then he should be impeached. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all.

But when everything is going to hell, in a country afflicted with both pandemic and polarization, it is best to prioritize taking care of the big problems first, then addressing the smaller challenges. What is (implausibly) alleged against Biden doesn't much compare to all the evidence we have against Trump. If government corruption is your issue, voting for the former vice president seems a better bet.

[Steve_R]

Even if Joe Biden turns out to be irredeemably corrupt — and I am skeptical that would be the case — he is no match for President Trump's epic underhandedness.

The president and his allies have spent the last few weeks flogging the notion that Biden is a crime lord masquerading as a politician, accusing the former vice president and his son, Hunter, of sketchy deals involving an array of foreign countries. These accusations haven't gained much traction — perhaps because they are of questionable providence: The New York Post reporters who wrote up a "bombshell" report on Hunter Biden refused to have their bylines appear with the story, a sign they weren't confident in it. And NBC reported on Thursday that a document containing allegations against Hunter was disseminated to a conservative activists by a man who doesn't even exist.

So it is difficult to take these allegations seriously. But say, only for the sake of argument, they end up being true. Does that mean anti-corruption voters should turn to Donald Trump as their savior? Of course not.

The list of Trump's unscrupulous activities over last four years is too lengthy to be recounted here. So let us take a look at some of revelations that have emerged just this week:

On Thursday, The New York Times reported the Trump administration had soft-peddled its prosecution of a Turkish bank accused of breaking U.S. sanctions law by funneling money to Iran — a scheme Justice Department lawyers believed was helping fund Iran's nuclear weapons program. But Trump has received millions of dollars of income from businesses in Turkey, leading officials to believe the president was looking out for his own best interest, instead of American interests. "He would interfere in the regular government process to do something for a foreign leader," John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, told the Times. "In anticipation of what? In anticipation of another favor from that person down the road."

Before that, on Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Trump's businesses have taken in at least $2.5 million from U.S. taxpayers — mostly for the privilege of letting the president hang out and do business on his own property. Expenses ranged from $1,000 worth of liquor for White House aides to $3 for the water Trump drank when meeting with the Japanese prime minister. That money is in addition to another $5.6 million Trump's campaign and fundraising committee paid to his businesses to support the boss' effort to stay in office, the Post reported, "turning campaign donations into private revenue." That isn't illegal. But it doesn't look good, either. "It's extremely unusual," one election law expert said.
Joel Mathis
Fri, October 30, 2020, 5:45 AM EDT

Even if Joe Biden turns out to be irredeemably corrupt — and I am skeptical that would be the case — he is no match for President Trump's epic underhandedness.

The president and his allies have spent the last few weeks flogging the notion that Biden is a crime lord masquerading as a politician, accusing the former vice president and his son, Hunter, of sketchy deals involving an array of foreign countries. These accusations haven't gained much traction — perhaps because they are of questionable providence: The New York Post reporters who wrote up a "bombshell" report on Hunter Biden refused to have their bylines appear with the story, a sign they weren't confident in it. And NBC reported on Thursday that a document containing allegations against Hunter was disseminated to a conservative activists by a man who doesn't even exist.

So it is difficult to take these allegations seriously. But say, only for the sake of argument, they end up being true. Does that mean anti-corruption voters should turn to Donald Trump as their savior? Of course not.

The list of Trump's unscrupulous activities over last four years is too lengthy to be recounted here. So let us take a look at some of revelations that have emerged just this week:

On Thursday, The New York Times reported the Trump administration had soft-peddled its prosecution of a Turkish bank accused of breaking U.S. sanctions law by funneling money to Iran — a scheme Justice Department lawyers believed was helping fund Iran's nuclear weapons program. But Trump has received millions of dollars of income from businesses in Turkey, leading officials to believe the president was looking out for his own best interest, instead of American interests. "He would interfere in the regular government process to do something for a foreign leader," John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, told the Times. "In anticipation of what? In anticipation of another favor from that person down the road."

Before that, on Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Trump's businesses have taken in at least $2.5 million from U.S. taxpayers — mostly for the privilege of letting the president hang out and do business on his own property. Expenses ranged from $1,000 worth of liquor for White House aides to $3 for the water Trump drank when meeting with the Japanese prime minister. That money is in addition to another $5.6 million Trump's campaign and fundraising committee paid to his businesses to support the boss' effort to stay in office, the Post reported, "turning campaign donations into private revenue." That isn't illegal. But it doesn't look good, either. "It's extremely unusual," one election law expert said
These latest stories add to what we already know about how Trump has used his authority to pressure Ukraine into undermining Biden's candidacy, to help his friends evade punishment for breaking the law, and to push for the investigation of his enemies. Reports have also indicated that foreign governments used Trump's businesses — and the businesses of his children — to curry favor with the president. Presidents aren't supposed to abuse their power or benefit financially from holding office. Trump has done both.

There is a danger of cynicism in this discussion. A friend once told me he didn't mind Trump's corruption so much because he figured all politicians are dishonest and self-dealing. It is likely that the president and his allies throw mud at Biden simply to further that impression. We should expect better from our leaders, of course.

So Joe Biden and his family should not be held beyond scrutiny, by the media or voters. And if Biden is elected and then abuses his authority and office to benefit personally and politically, then he should be impeached. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all.

But when everything is going to hell, in a country afflicted with both pandemic and polarization, it is best to prioritize taking care of the big problems first, then addressing the smaller challenges. What is (implausibly) alleged against Biden doesn't much compare to all the evidence we have against Trump. If government corruption is your issue, voting for the former vice president seems a better bet.


Cliffs: Jeffie has a bad case of TDS - and weak copy & paste skills.

YW

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Even if Joe Biden turns out to be irredeemably corrupt — and I am skeptical that would be the case — he is no match for President Trump's epic underhandedness.

The president and his allies have spent the last few weeks flogging the notion that Biden is a crime lord masquerading as a politician, accusing the former vice president and his son, Hunter, of sketchy deals involving an array of foreign countries. These accusations haven't gained much traction — perhaps because they are of questionable providence: The New York Post reporters who wrote up a "bombshell" report on Hunter Biden refused to have their bylines appear with the story, a sign they weren't confident in it. And NBC reported on Thursday that a document containing allegations against Hunter was disseminated to a conservative activists by a man who doesn't even exist.

So it is difficult to take these allegations seriously. But say, only for the sake of argument, they end up being true. Does that mean anti-corruption voters should turn to Donald Trump as their savior? Of course not.

The list of Trump's unscrupulous activities over last four years is too lengthy to be recounted here. So let us take a look at some of revelations that have emerged just this week:

On Thursday, The New York Times reported the Trump administration had soft-peddled its prosecution of a Turkish bank accused of breaking U.S. sanctions law by funneling money to Iran — a scheme Justice Department lawyers believed was helping fund Iran's nuclear weapons program. But Trump has received millions of dollars of income from businesses in Turkey, leading officials to believe the president was looking out for his own best interest, instead of American interests. "He would interfere in the regular government process to do something for a foreign leader," John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, told the Times. "In anticipation of what? In anticipation of another favor from that person down the road."

Before that, on Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Trump's businesses have taken in at least $2.5 million from U.S. taxpayers — mostly for the privilege of letting the president hang out and do business on his own property. Expenses ranged from $1,000 worth of liquor for White House aides to $3 for the water Trump drank when meeting with the Japanese prime minister. That money is in addition to another $5.6 million Trump's campaign and fundraising committee paid to his businesses to support the boss' effort to stay in office, the Post reported, "turning campaign donations into private revenue." That isn't illegal. But it doesn't look good, either. "It's extremely unusual," one election law expert said.
Joel Mathis
Fri, October 30, 2020, 5:45 AM EDT

Even if Joe Biden turns out to be irredeemably corrupt — and I am skeptical that would be the case — he is no match for President Trump's epic underhandedness.

The president and his allies have spent the last few weeks flogging the notion that Biden is a crime lord masquerading as a politician, accusing the former vice president and his son, Hunter, of sketchy deals involving an array of foreign countries. These accusations haven't gained much traction — perhaps because they are of questionable providence: The New York Post reporters who wrote up a "bombshell" report on Hunter Biden refused to have their bylines appear with the story, a sign they weren't confident in it. And NBC reported on Thursday that a document containing allegations against Hunter was disseminated to a conservative activists by a man who doesn't even exist.

So it is difficult to take these allegations seriously. But say, only for the sake of argument, they end up being true. Does that mean anti-corruption voters should turn to Donald Trump as their savior? Of course not.

The list of Trump's unscrupulous activities over last four years is too lengthy to be recounted here. So let us take a look at some of revelations that have emerged just this week:

On Thursday, The New York Times reported the Trump administration had soft-peddled its prosecution of a Turkish bank accused of breaking U.S. sanctions law by funneling money to Iran — a scheme Justice Department lawyers believed was helping fund Iran's nuclear weapons program. But Trump has received millions of dollars of income from businesses in Turkey, leading officials to believe the president was looking out for his own best interest, instead of American interests. "He would interfere in the regular government process to do something for a foreign leader," John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, told the Times. "In anticipation of what? In anticipation of another favor from that person down the road."

Before that, on Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Trump's businesses have taken in at least $2.5 million from U.S. taxpayers — mostly for the privilege of letting the president hang out and do business on his own property. Expenses ranged from $1,000 worth of liquor for White House aides to $3 for the water Trump drank when meeting with the Japanese prime minister. That money is in addition to another $5.6 million Trump's campaign and fundraising committee paid to his businesses to support the boss' effort to stay in office, the Post reported, "turning campaign donations into private revenue." That isn't illegal. But it doesn't look good, either. "It's extremely unusual," one election law expert said
These latest stories add to what we already know about how Trump has used his authority to pressure Ukraine into undermining Biden's candidacy, to help his friends evade punishment for breaking the law, and to push for the investigation of his enemies. Reports have also indicated that foreign governments used Trump's businesses — and the businesses of his children — to curry favor with the president. Presidents aren't supposed to abuse their power or benefit financially from holding office. Trump has done both.
[ADVERTISEMENT]
There is a danger of cynicism in this discussion. A friend once told me he didn't mind Trump's corruption so much because he figured all politicians are dishonest and self-dealing. It is likely that the president and his allies throw mud at Biden simply to further that impression. We should expect better from our leaders, of course.

So Joe Biden and his family should not be held beyond scrutiny, by the media or voters. And if Biden is elected and then abuses his authority and office to benefit personally and politically, then he should be impeached. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all.

But when everything is going to hell, in a country afflicted with both pandemic and polarization, it is best to prioritize taking care of the big problems first, then addressing the smaller challenges. What is (implausibly) alleged against Biden doesn't much compare to all the evidence we have against Trump. If government corruption is your issue, voting for the former vice president seems a better bet.




Another copy and pasted, regurgitated story from one fake news source to another, to another, posting opinions of events as facts. :spdchk:

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Cliffs: Jeffie has a bad case of TDS - and weak copy & paste skills.

YW



Peetee edited out "[ADVERTISEMENT]" after posting to make it look like he's the original writer.... :funniest: :funniest: :funniest: :funniest:


Too bad Peetee...your ninja edit was caught!

[Jeff '79]

Cliffs: Jeffie has a bad case of TDS - and weak copy & paste skills.

YW

Another copy and pasted, regurgitated story from one fake news source to another, to another, posting opinions of events as facts. :spdchk:

Happy little cult members with blinders on. Good to see you. Run from you ???:rofl:
That is more than either of you 2 have ever come up with, except, like Dump, name calling drivel :cert:
Why??? Because that's all you've got.:kimblair:

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Happy little cult members with blinders on. Good to see you. Run from you ???:rofl:
That is more than either of you 2 ever came up with, except, like Dump, name calling drivel :cert:



Fuk'n liar!
Voting for Biden has you plagiarizing like him too.
You want to edit your post again and provide your link this time?



A plagiarizing fuk'n liar.
Shame on you. :spdchk:

[Jeff '79]

Fuk'n liar!
Voting for Biden has you plagiarizing like him too.
You want to edit your post again and provide your link this time?



A plagiarizing fuk'n liar.
Shame on you. :spdchk:

48583

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Happy little cult members with blinders on. Good to see you. Run from you ???:rofl:
That is more than either of you 2 have ever come up with, except, like Dump, name calling drivel :cert:
Why??? Because that's all you've got.:kimblair:



:spdchk:
More edits.....fuk'n liar.

[Jeff '79]

:spdchk:
More edits.....fuk'n liar.

48585


Ouch.. You're hurting me

[Jeff '79]

Another copy and pasted, regurgitated story from one fake news source to another, to another, posting opinions of events as facts. :spdchk:

Peetee edited out "[ADVERTISEMENT]" after posting to make it look like he's the original writer.... :funniest: :funniest: :funniest: :funniest:


Too bad Peetee...your ninja edit was caught!

Fuk'n liar!
Voting for Biden has you plagiarizing like him too.
You want to edit your post again and provide your link this time?



A plagiarizing fuk'n liar.
Shame on you. :spdchk:

:spdchk:
More edits.....fuk'n liar.

Lie, misdirect, and name call.
Your cult leader has taught you well.:seasix:

[carlton_fritz]

Why are you people feeding the troll? He was once a worthwhile member of this forum, but now he cannot be a worthy contributor. It's really sad. I do not want or need that sort of idiocy in my life. I put him on ignore. He is the only member I have on ignore.

[Jeff '79]

48586

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Lie, misdirect, and name call.
Your cult leader has taught you well.:seasix:



:spdchk:
fuk'n LIAR.

Updated your avi. to better describe you as a forum member here.

YW

[Jeff '79]

:spdchk:
fuk'n LIAR.

Updated your avi. to better describe you as a forum member here.

YW

Wow... Just wow.
Seek mental help immediately. :sadangel:
See Post # 101

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Wow... Just wow.
Seek mental help immediately. :sadangel:
See Post # 101



A fuk'n LIAR has no credibility, nor integrity.

.

[Jeff '79]

A fuk'n LIAR has no credibility, nor integrity.

.

Correct.
See Post # 99

Cliffs:

Lie, misdirect, and name call.
Your cult leader has taught you well.:seasix:

Seriously man... You need professional help. :sadangel:

[Aerovette]

Cliffs: Jeffie has a bad case of TDS - and weak copy & paste skills.

YW

And doesn't comprehend that because the President is NOT a Dictator, he is unable to handle things the way HE wants to without external influence, advice, or cautions.

[Jeff '79]

And doesn't comprehend that because the President is NOT a Dictator, he is unable to handle things the way HE wants to without external influence, advice, or cautions.

Wow... Your brainwashing is complete.:shots:

[Aerovette]

Why are you people feeding the troll? He was once a worthwhile member of this forum, but now he cannot be a worthy contributor. It's really sad. I do not want or need that sort of idiocy in my life. I put him on ignore. He is the only member I have on ignore.

I contemplated that yesterday. Jury is still out. I'm holding off until after Trump wins because I don't want to miss that meltdown for the world.

[Jeff '79]

I contemplated that yesterday. Jury is still out. I'm holding off until after Trump wins because I don't want to miss that meltdown for the world.

:Jeff '79:

[Strats-N-Vettes]

See Post # 99
Cliffs:
Lie, misdirect, and name call.



Here's the link to the opinion piece Peetee LIAR was plagiarizing.

From this Joel Mathis, to "The Week", to yahoo finance.
Typical Peetee LIAR posting regurgitated stories as facts. :spdchk:

https://theweek.com/articles/946823/trump-blatantly-corrupt


Even if Joe Biden turns out to be irredeemably corrupt — and I am skeptical that would be the case — he is no match for President Trump's epic underhandedness.

The president and his allies have spent the last few weeks flogging the notion that Biden is a crime lord masquerading as a politician, accusing the former vice president and his son, Hunter, of sketchy deals involving an array of foreign countries. These accusations haven't gained much traction — perhaps because they are of questionable providence: The New York Post reporters who wrote up a "bombshell" report on Hunter Biden refused to have their bylines appear with the story, a sign they weren't confident in it. And NBC reported on Thursday that a document containing allegations against Hunter was disseminated to a conservative activists by a man who doesn't even exist.
Advertisement

So it is difficult to take these allegations seriously. But say, only for the sake of argument, they end up being true. Does that mean anti-corruption voters should turn to Donald Trump as their savior? Of course not.

The list of Trump's unscrupulous activities over last four years is too lengthy to be recounted here. So let us take a look at some of revelations that have emerged just this week:

On Thursday, The New York Times reported the Trump administration had soft-peddled its prosecution of a Turkish bank accused of breaking U.S. sanctions law by funneling money to Iran — a scheme Justice Department lawyers believed was helping fund Iran's nuclear weapons program. But Trump has received millions of dollars of income from businesses in Turkey, leading officials to believe the president was looking out for his own best interest, instead of American interests. "He would interfere in the regular government process to do something for a foreign leader," John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, told the Times. "In anticipation of what? In anticipation of another favor from that person down the road."
Before that, on Tuesday, The Washington Post reported that Trump's businesses have taken in at least $2.5 million from U.S. taxpayers — mostly for the privilege of letting the president hang out and do business on his own property. Expenses ranged from $1,000 worth of liquor for White House aides to $3 for the water Trump drank when meeting with the Japanese prime minister. That money is in addition to another $5.6 million Trump's campaign and fundraising committee paid to his businesses to support the boss' effort to stay in office, the Post reported, "turning campaign donations into private revenue." That isn't illegal. But it doesn't look good, either. "It's extremely unusual," one election law expert said.

These latest stories add to what we already know about how Trump has used his authority to pressure Ukraine into undermining Biden's candidacy, to help his friends evade punishment for breaking the law, and to push for the investigation of his enemies. Reports have also indicated that foreign governments used Trump's businesses — and the businesses of his children — to curry favor with the president. Presidents aren't supposed to abuse their power or benefit financially from holding office. Trump has done both.

There is a danger of cynicism in this discussion. A friend once told me he didn't mind Trump's corruption so much because he figured all politicians are dishonest and self-dealing. It is likely that the president and his allies throw mud at Biden simply to further that impression. We should expect better from our leaders, of course.

So Joe Biden and his family should not be held beyond scrutiny, by the media or voters. And if Biden is elected and then abuses his authority and office to benefit personally and politically, then he should be impeached. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all.

But when everything is going to hell, in a country afflicted with both pandemic and polarization, it is best to prioritize taking care of the big problems first, then addressing the smaller challenges. What is (implausibly) alleged against Biden doesn't much compare to all the evidence we have against Trump. If government corruption is your issue, voting for the former vice president seems a better bet.




:spdchk:

[Jeff '79]

Here's the link to the opinion piece Peetee LIAR

:spdchk:


48590

The new Rotor ! Strats & Vettes !!! :rofl::funniest::funnier:

[Rikki Z-06]

48590

The new Rotor ! Strats & Vettes !!! :rofl::funniest::funnier:

Face it, YOU got caught. Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

Thanks Strats. :kimblair:

[Strats-N-Vettes]

48590

The new Rotor ! Strats & Vettes !!! :rofl::funniest::funnier:



Pointing out your lies is a calming effect.
But you go ahead and lie to yourself that I am raging, that's exactly what I want you to think. :yesnod:

.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Face it, YOU got caught.

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

Thanks Strats. :kimblair:


:seasix:
He thought his ninja edit was good enough to cover.
He isn't very smart =


He always regurgitates fake news and opinions from yahoo as facts.
He isn't very smart; and the article had no spelling mistakes.
He isn't smart enough to assemble an intelligent thought of his own.
He always deflects and resorts to name calling when he doesn't have an answer.
I saw [ADVERTISEMENT] before he edited it out.


Those facts alone told me he copied and pasted the hate piece, which, is the only thing he had in common with the article = hate. :yesnod:

[Rikki Z-06]

:seasix:
He thought his ninja edit was good enough to cover.
He isn't very smart =


He always regurgitates fake news and opinions from yahoo as facts.
He isn't very smart; and the article had no spelling mistakes.
He isn't smart enough to assemble an intelligent thought of his own.
He always deflects and resorts to name calling when he doesn't have an answer.
I saw [ADVERTISEMENT] before he edited it out.


Those facts alone told me he copied and pasted the hate piece, which, is the only thing he had in common with the article = hate. :yesnod:

:seasix:

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

:seasix:
He thought his ninja edit was good enough to cover.
He isn't very smart =


He always regurgitates fake news and opinions from yahoo as facts.
He isn't very smart; and the article had no spelling mistakes.
He isn't smart enough to assemble an intelligent thought of his own.
He always deflects and resorts to name calling when he doesn't have an answer.
I saw [ADVERTISEMENT] before he edited it out.


Those facts alone told me he copied and pasted the hate piece, which, is the only thing he had in common with the article = hate. :yesnod:

Content doesn't matter.
Just deflect and lie !! :lol:

Ok Rotor:cert:

[Rikki Z-06]

Content doesn't matter.
Just deflect and lie !! :lol:

Ok Rotor:cert:

You just need to STFU already. You've been called out and can't handle the truth.

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

You just need to STFU already. You've been called out and can't handle the truth.

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

:lol: You're hilarious

[Bill]

One thing we all have to respect, regardless of how we vote, is Hunter's service to our country. Not only was Hunter briefly in the US Navy, he's a commissioned 'Premium Lieutenant' on Pornhub. And yes, this is Hunter's verified account.

https://media.thedonald.win/post/Tj9j04Yg.jpeg

[Strats-N-Vettes]

You just need to STFU already. You've been called out and can't handle the truth.

Biden Crime Syndicate. :yesnod:

:iagree:

.

[Rikki Z-06]

:iagree:

.

:seasix:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I believe this guy. He knows too much detail.:yesnod:

Hunter's laptop started this house of cards falling.

Nothing will happen here. Repeat; NOTHING. Joe Bi could walk into your house and murder your entire family with an ax and nothing would happen here.

No house of cards is falling. No 'Investigation' is forthcoming. Nothing is happening. Joe Bi is on his way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with that slut and there isn't a damn thing you or anyone else can do about it.

[Aerovette]

Nothing will happen here. Repeat; NOTHING. Joe Bi could walk into your house and murder your entire family with an ax and nothing would happen here.

No house of cards is falling. No 'Investigation' is forthcoming. Nothing is happening. Joe Bi is on his way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with that slut and there isn't a damn thing you or anyone else can do about it.

100% TRUE ^^^^^^

*except for the 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue part.

[Cybercowboy]

Nothing will happen here. Repeat; NOTHING. Joe Bi could walk into your house and murder your entire family with an ax and nothing would happen here.

No house of cards is falling. No 'Investigation' is forthcoming. Nothing is happening. Joe Bi is on his way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with that slut and there isn't a damn thing you or anyone else can do about it.

:lol: It's not even going to be close. But keep the dream alive if it makes you happy.

[Jeff '79]

:lol: It's not even going to be close. But keep the dream alive if it makes you happy.

So I guess that I will be the new Election Expert when Joey wins. :seasix:
You'll be dethroned in 5 days:sadangel:

[Cybercowboy]

So I guess that I will be the new Election Expert when Joey wins. :seasix:
You'll be dethroned in 5 days:sadangel:

I will bet you $5000. Wanna bet?

[Bill]

So I guess that I will be the new Election Expert when Joey wins. :seasix:
You'll be dethroned in 5 days:sadangel:

I will bet you $5000. Wanna bet?

Shit just got real, y'all!

:wow:

[Bill]

For what it's worth, here's Democrat House Rep. Mo Khanna (D) vouching for Bobulinski. Bobulinski is a long time (D) donor, so when he flips on the Biden family and tells us the family business is influence peddling to foreigners, it's not some biased right winger, it's a trusted member of the D establishment. Maybe Adam Schiff and Joe himself shouldn't have called him a Russian agent. Everybody has their breaking point.

https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1322181851134525442

[Cybercowboy]

Shit just got real, y'all!

:wow:

On the betting sites they have Trump 13:8 so it's not really a very fair bet for Jeff to take, but I'll make it if he's a taker. Or he can just bet $800 to win $1300 on those same betting sites. Up to him.

[Jeff '79]

On the betting sites they have Trump 13:8 so it's not really a very fair bet for Jeff to take, but I'll make it if he's a taker. Or he can just bet $800 to win $1300 on those same betting sites. Up to him.

After 2016 ??
Pass:dance:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I will bet you $5000. Wanna bet?

I won't bet you that much but I'm willing to put a bottle of booze on the line. I'm a Gin drinker.

Biden wins? You ship me a bottle of Tanqueray.
Trump wins? I'll ship you the bottle of your choice.

Let's keep it at a $50.00 limit. That'll cover most things.

In?

[Cybercowboy]

I won't bet you that much but I'm willing to put a bottle of booze on the line. I'm a Gin drinker.

Biden wins? You ship me a bottle of Tanqueray.
Trump wins? I'll ship you the bottle of your choice.

Let's keep it at a $50.00 limit. That'll cover most things.

In?

Absolutely! Any nice bottle of red wine in that price range will do, a nice cab or red zin or red blend would be great.

I'll make the same offer to Jeff, $50 limit. Your choice of booze young man! :cert:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Absolutely! Any nice bottle of red wine in that price range will do, a nice cab or red zin or red blend would be great.

Game

ON!

:cert:

[Jeff '79]

Absolutely! Any nice bottle of red wine in that price range will do, a nice cab or red zin or red blend would be great.

I'll make the same offer to Jeff, $50 limit. Your choice of booze young man! :cert:

You're on!.
I'll take the same, preferably from Washington State or if there is one that you prefer.:cert:
Cab or red blend, no zin :D

[Cybercowboy]

You're on!.
I'll take the same, preferably from Washington State or if there is one that you prefer.:cert:
Cab or red blend, no zin :D

:cert:

[Aerovette]

I have a bet with a buddy's wife.

Trump wins, I owe her dinner and drinks at the place the three of us always go. ( I bet against Trump on the Raazor/Mush gambling strategy)
Second part of the bet if the House goes red, I owe her a second dinner and more drinks.
If the house stays blue, the bets offset and no one pays.

[Bill]

You're on!.
I'll take $ 50 worth of Bartles and Jaymes wine coolers :D



https://www.pikfly.com/images/products/141/20986.jpg





:D

[snide]

I have a bet with a buddy's wife.

Trump wins, I owe her dinner and drinks at the place the three of us always go. ( I bet against Trump on the Raazor/Mush gambling strategy)
Second part of the bet if the House goes red, I owe her a second dinner and more drinks.
If the house stays blue, the bets offset and no one pays.

Does "drinks" mean sex? Asking for a certain Iron Chef... :leaving:

[Datawiz]

You're on!.
I'll take the same, preferably from Washington State or if there is one that you prefer.:cert:
Cab or red blend, no zin :D

Can I get in on this with you and Thomas? :datawiz: Or is your budget busted if you lose to Cyber?

[Aerovette]

Does "drinks" mean sex? Asking for a certain Iron Chef... :leaving:

Her husband is about 6' 9" and about 450lbs so that is a hard "NO". He is insane strong...and he'll be there. I just don't have the bet with him.

[Cybercowboy]

Can I get in on this with you and Thomas? :datawiz: Or is your budget busted if you lose to Cyber?

Come up here after the election and you can have all the wine you want, I got lots! :lol:

I even have some decent scotch.

[Jeff '79]

Can I get in on this with you and Thomas? :datawiz: Or is your budget busted if you lose to Cyber?

Gimme 10 -1 odds Mr.Big Bucks and were on. :seasix:

[carlton_fritz]

:cert:
Cyber gonna get drunk.

[Will]

He was credible but the media has convinced half the country it's RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE. Also Joe Biden indeed has plausible deniability. Obvious what went on, but can't prove Joe profited.

[Datawiz]

Gimme 10 -1 odds Mr.Big Bucks and were on. :seasix:

Quit fooling us, we all know you've got a nice stash. Man up, even odds.

[VatorMan]

He was credible but the media has convinced half the country it's RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE. Also Joe Biden indeed has plausible deniability. Obvious what went on, but can't prove Joe profited.

Oh, it’s provable. It just depends on who gets the house after the election. The big issue is, Biden or Harris ? (Scenario is the unthinkable happens)

[Cybercowboy]

Cyber gonna get drunk.

Cyber gonna enjoy, but that's not a big deal. The guy Cyber is wagering will win has brokered a Middle East peace deal. That's something that anyone paying attention would applaud. And there's more! My guy wants to keep energy production right here in the USA, doesn't want to send all our manufacturing jobs overseas (again, just got most back), and last but not least totally has built 400+ miles of wall on the border which funnels the happy funtime immigranty types into immigrant lanes. And I could go on. (surface barely scratched)

[Cybercowboy]

He was credible but the media has convinced half the country it's RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE. Also Joe Biden indeed has plausible deniability. Obvious what went on, but can't prove Joe profited.

Will, you have an obvious weakness. You suffer from Beltway Fatigue or some sort of exposure to MSM viral infectionitus. Just relax.

Anyway, Minnesota is a lesson to all. **** around, find out.

[Jeff '79]

Tucker Carlson Claims He's Going To Leave 'Fallen Man' Hunter Biden Alone Now

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/tucker-carlson-hunter-biden-leave-him-alone-195438667.html


Tucker Carlson is such a douche.
Time for a career change.:lol:


Biden Crime Syndicate :spdchk:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-happened-nbc-news-tried-214453150.html

The Cult Of Trump has nothing.
I hope the OP is proud of this thread.
A guy that posts drivel with nothing to back it up and just creates derision among posters.
Nice.

[Jeff '79]

Gimme 10 -1 odds Mr.Big Bucks and were on. :seasix:

Quit fooling us, we all know you've got a nice stash. Man up, even odds.

Man up and give me the odds.
You're the one, in a mocking manner towards me, that claims that $500 is a far cry from $50.

Data<"Taking a $50 bet is not in the same zip code as a $500 bet.">Data


Originally Posted by datawiz
"Can I get in on this with you and Thomas? Or is your budget busted if you lose to Cyber?"


It follows that evening the playing field would only be fair.
Don't you think? or will your budget be busted if you lose?

[Cybercowboy]

Wow... Your brainwashing is complete.:shots:

https://media.thedonald.win/post/HwZQ8Eh7.jpeg

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Gimme 10 -1 odds Mr.Big Bucks and were on. :seasix:

I’m out. I can’t afford fun and games with someone who’ll drop $1800.00 on a bottle of Macallan. I gotta eat.

:yesnod:

[Strats-N-Vettes]

I’m out. I can’t afford fun and games with someone who’ll drop $1800.00 on a bottle of Macallan. I gotta eat, buy guitar strings, and tubes.

:yesnod:


fixed.

[snide]

A guy that posts drivel with nothing to back it up and just creates derision among posters.
Nice.

*cough*

[Cybercowboy]

https://media.thedonald.win/post/SpneJHt1.jpeg

[Jeff '79]

https://media.thedonald.win/post/SpneJHt1.jpeg

:Jeff '79:
We are so fkd

[Datawiz]

Man up and give me the odds.
You're the one, in a mocking manner towards me, that claims that $500 is a far cry from $50.

Data<"Taking a $50 bet is not in the same zip code as a $500 bet.">Data


Originally Posted by datawiz
"Can I get in on this with you and Thomas? Or is your budget busted if you lose to Cyber?"


It follows that evening the playing field would only be fair.
Don't you think? or will your budget be busted if you lose?

$500 straight up. Same as cyber.

[Jeff '79]

$500 straight up. Same as cyber.

:spdchk:
Sorry buddy. I'll take 10/1 or nothing.

[z06psi]

:spdchk:
Sorry buddy. I'll take 10/1 or nothing.

Broke ass. I can tell by your wavy pavers.

[Datawiz]

:spdchk:
Sorry buddy. I'll take 10/1 or nothing.

So a cool $1,000 straight up is out? :leaving:

[Jeff '79]

So a cool $1,000 straight up is out? :leaving:

So if you're so sure and you're bragging your money around, gimme 10/1 odds.
Charity stars on the forum.:seasix:

[Datawiz]

So if you're so sure and you're bragging your money around, gimme 10/1 odds.
Charity stars on the forum.:seasix:

Man up bro. If you are so confident in your choice. Choose one or the other. 10-1 odds are a waste of everyone's time. You could make a lot of money if you believe in your convictions.

[Jeff '79]

Man up bro. If you are so confident in your choice. Choose one or the other. 10-1 odds are a waste of everyone's time. You could make a lot of money if you believe in your convictions.

You man up.
I've already bet with Cyber, so if you don't want to man up and take my terms, drop it.
You're supposedly the baller with endless money to burn and you're turning me down???
Really? :rofl:

[Datawiz]

You man up.
I've already bet with Cyber, so if you don't want to man up and take my terms, drop it.
You're supposedly the baller with endless money to burn and you're turning me down???
Really? :rofl:

You took Cyber straight up? Good for you. I'm not giving 10-1 odds on a 50-50 race. I'll put up solid money, but I'm not stupid.

[Jeff '79]

You took Cyber straight up? Good for you. I'm not giving 10-1 odds on a 50-50 race. I'll put up solid money, but I'm not stupid.

:seasix::cert:

[Datawiz]

:seasix::cert:

But yes...I'm printing cash these days. ;)

[Jeff '79]

But yes...I'm printing cash these days. ;)

:kick::lol:

[Datawiz]

:kick::lol:

It's there for the taking...come and get it. :datawiz:

[carlton_fritz]

..

[snide]

..
https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48652&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1604183708

:cool::cool::thumbs::thumbs:

:cheers:

[Rikki Z-06]

..

:seasix:

[z06psi]

I believe this guy. He knows too much detail.:yesnod:

Hunter's laptop started this house of cards falling.

:yesnod::yesnod::yesnod::yesnod::yesnod::yesnod:

[Aerovette]

This is HUGE. I can't wait for absolutely nothing to being done about it.

[z06psi]

This is HUGE. I can't wait for absolutely nothing to being done about it.

Perxactly but it was all true. Every bit of it.