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C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 9:32am
Do you have adult kids that you wonder WTH they are thinking?


Times have changed, I was driven to make my parents proud and "Do right my them". I was devastated with the "I am disappointed in you!" glare.

Kids these days simply don't GAS. :thomas:

outrunm
01-21-2020, 9:41am
Not there quite yet but it's coming I know.

bsmith
01-21-2020, 9:45am
Who cares about parental approval when you have thousands of peer "followers"?

BOTY
01-21-2020, 9:55am
Not yet, fingers crossed. :yesnod:

FX VETTE
01-21-2020, 10:12am
Millennials :yesnod:

simpleman68
01-21-2020, 10:15am
Who cares about parental approval when you have thousands of peer "followers"?

And children have been "elevated" to adult status by the media.
One of the reasons I disliked shows like the Simpsons, even though I was virtually alone in that camp.

They show kids talking smack to their parents and in the following years that trend continued in many movies; the precocious child that knows better than any adult.

How about "are you smarter than a 5th grader?"

All appears cute on the outside until the results rear their ugly heads.

One of the reasons we don't watch tv and are very picky with what movies/cartoons our kids watch.
We also expect them to address adults with "Mr. or Mrs."
Scott

BOTY
01-21-2020, 10:24am
And children have been "elevated" to adult status by the media.
One of the reasons I disliked shows like the Simpsons, even though I was virtually alone in that camp.

They show kids talking smack to their parents and in the following years that trend continued in many movies; the precocious child that knows better than any adult.

How about "are you smarter than a 5th grader?"

All appears cute on the outside until the results rear their ugly heads.

One of the reasons we don't watch tv and are very picky with what movies/cartoons our kids watch.
We also expect them to address adults with "Mr. or Mrs."
Scott

Both of my kids are very respectful, they learned that by example. My son will get up from his seat at a restaurant to open a door for an older couple, good kid. :seasix: I help older folks load their groceries and put them in their car at grocery stores. Learn by example, pretty easy concept. :dance:

Rikki Z-06
01-21-2020, 10:28am
Both of my kids are very respectful, they learned that by example. My son will get up from his seat at a restaurant to open a door for an older couple, good kid. :seasix: I help older folks load their groceries and put them in their car at grocery stores. Learn by example, pretty easy concept. :dance:

Same. :seasix:

BOTY
01-21-2020, 10:29am
Same. :seasix:

Common courtesy is not always so common.

Rikki Z-06
01-21-2020, 10:32am
Common courtesy is not always so common.

^^^^

RMVette
01-21-2020, 10:33am
Common courtesy is not always so common.

Same as common sense.

Mike Mercury
01-21-2020, 10:33am
Who cares about parental approval when you can get
high and forget about ones flaws.

fixt

C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 10:35am
Both of my kids are very respectful, they learned that by example. My son will get up from his seat at a restaurant to open a door for an older couple, good kid. :seasix: I help older folks load their groceries and put them in their car at grocery stores. Learn by example, pretty easy concept. :dance:

How my boys, as well as I were raised.

Like a switch got flipped and all the years of developing to be self sufficient, respectable, appreciative, responsible, God-centered, selfless individuals went out the window :popcorns:

Rikki Z-06
01-21-2020, 10:36am
Same as common sense.

^^^^

Rikki Z-06
01-21-2020, 10:37am
How my boys, as well as I were raised.

Like a switch got flipped and all the years of developing to be self sufficient, respectable, appreciative, responsible, God-centered, selfless individuals went out the window :popcorns:

Sorry to hear Girly Wirly. :confused5:

BOTY
01-21-2020, 10:40am
How my boys, as well as I were raised.

Like a switch got flipped and all the years of developing to be self sufficient, respectable, appreciative, responsible, God-centered, selfless individuals went out the window :popcorns:

:kick:

dvarapala
01-21-2020, 10:46am
Like a switch got flipped and all the years of developing to be self sufficient, respectable, appreciative, responsible, God-centered, selfless individuals went out the window :popcorns:

The technical term is "puberty." :D

BOTY
01-21-2020, 10:50am
The technical term is "puberty." :D

Her boys have passed that day by.

C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 11:02am
Her boys have passed that day by.

Yep.

Oldest (29) needs an swift kick in the azz, but you can't push the issue > don't want grands to be put in the middle and used as leverage.

BOTY
01-21-2020, 11:06am
Yep.

Oldest (29) needs an swift kick in the azz, but you can't push the issue > don't want grands to be put in the middle and used as leverage.

Truth, tough situation. :sadangel: I can't imagine the day when I can't put a boot in BD's azz.

LilRedCorvette
01-21-2020, 11:39am
Common courtesy is not always so common.

Same as common sense.

Common Sense and his wife Common Courtesy went on vacation in 1984...and haven’t been back since. :nonod: :ack:

VatorMan
01-21-2020, 11:58am
Yep.

Oldest (29) needs an swift kick in the azz, but you can't push the issue > don't want grands to be put in the middle and used as leverage.

You are not alone. We have a similar issue with our son. He has high dollar tastes and a middle class budget.

dvarapala
01-21-2020, 12:18pm
Her boys have passed that day by.

Yet the effects are still felt each and every day. :D

Hardluck
01-21-2020, 12:33pm
Yet the effects are still felt each and every day. :D

STFU Dr. Phillis!:slap:

Hardluck
01-21-2020, 12:36pm
Thankfully my Son[34] is very respectful and responsible! I have alwahys gotten compliments on him ever since he was little and up thru now how polite and respectful he is to other people, especially to older adults!:hurray:
Most all his friends act the same way as well!:yesnod:

JetMechZ16
01-21-2020, 12:38pm
Thankfully my Son[34] is very respectful and responsible! I have alwahys gotten compliments on him ever since he was little and up thru now how polite and respectful he is to other people, especially to older adults!:hurray:
Most all his friends act the same way as well!:yesnod:

All Stepford kids act that way. :yesnod:




Just kiddin Hal.

Hardluck
01-21-2020, 12:50pm
All Stepford kids act that way. :yesnod:




Just kiddin Hal.

STFU

Rikki Z-06
01-21-2020, 1:01pm
STFU Dr. Phillis!:slap:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Millenium Vette
01-21-2020, 1:10pm
I dunno, to me it doesn't seem that much different today than it did 40-some years ago when I was a teenager and had seen plenty of different types. I was raised to be polite and respectful, as were all of my friends. But I also observed plenty of kids who were terrible. I remember one family where both teenaged sons would often tell their dad to get ****ed in front of everyone. And it wasn't some big argument, it was normal conversation. There were no repercussions. Ever. And that was by no means the only family I ever saw where it was like this.

All of my friends have raised their kids right and they are as polite and trouble free as any generation has been.

:cert:

Mick
01-21-2020, 1:19pm
And children have been "elevated" to adult status by the media.
One of the reasons I disliked shows like the Simpsons, even though I was virtually alone in that camp.

They show kids talking smack to their parents and in the following years that trend continued in many movies; the precocious child that knows better than any adult.

How about "are you smarter than a 5th grader?"

All appears cute on the outside until the results rear their ugly heads.

One of the reasons we don't watch tv and are very picky with what movies/cartoons our kids watch.
We also expect them to address adults with "Mr. or Mrs."
Scott

I think that this can be handled pretty easily. From very early on, I told my kids "Children aren't stupid, they are inexperienced". I think that set the tone all the way through their growing up years. I never presented myself as "smarter" than they were, and it's a good thing too, because I am sure they are both way smarter than I. They talk to me when they need "life guidance", and never bothered me much with homework struggles. :thumbs:

MrPeabody
01-21-2020, 1:51pm
You have to decide early on whether your kid is going to need a college fund or a bail fund. We had one of each.:yesnod:

JetMechZ16
01-21-2020, 1:56pm
You have to decide early on whether your kid is going to need a college fund or a bail fund. We had one of each.:yesnod:

One of each kind of kid or both funds for one kid?:confused5:

BOTY
01-21-2020, 2:08pm
Common Sense and his wife Common Courtesy went on vacation in 1984...and haven’t been back since. :nonod: :ack:

I'm trying to keep the dream alive. :D

BOTY
01-21-2020, 2:10pm
I dunno, to me it doesn't seem that much different today than it did 40-some years ago when I was a teenager and had seen plenty of different types. I was raised to be polite and respectful, as were all of my friends. But I also observed plenty of kids who were terrible. I remember one family where both teenaged sons would often tell their dad to get ****ed in front of everyone. And it wasn't some big argument, it was normal conversation. There were no repercussions. Ever. And that was by no means the only family I ever saw where it was like this.

All of my friends have raised their kids right and they are as polite and trouble free as any generation has been.

:cert:

:iagree:

Aerovette
01-21-2020, 2:13pm
I was always too shy as a kid to be a fool around adults. I sat quietly and spoke when spoken to...and sometimes not even then.

Anjdog2003
01-21-2020, 2:16pm
I was always too shy as a kid to be a fool around adults. I sat quietly and spoke when spoken to...and sometimes not even then.





Too bad you're not like that now. :yesnod:

MrPeabody
01-21-2020, 2:18pm
One of each kind of kid or both funds for one kid?:confused5:

One of each kid. They are both in their late 40s now and doing well. I didn't actually raise them, they were grown and had moved out when I met my wife 30 years ago. I can tell you this, anyone who thinks a kid is only an 18 year responsibility has never had one.:yesnod:

Aerovette
01-21-2020, 2:19pm
Too bad you're not like that now. :yesnod:


No one asked you vanheim.

Hey I think someone just took off with your inner tube. Isn't tomorrow bath day?

BOTY
01-21-2020, 2:21pm
No one asked you vanheim.

Hey I think someone just took off with your inner tube. Isn't tomorrow bath day?

Second Wednesday of the month.

MrPeabody
01-21-2020, 2:22pm
Too bad you're not like that now. :yesnod:

Irony alert!

Old Ben
01-21-2020, 2:58pm
One of each kid. They are both in their late 40s now and doing well. I didn't actually raise them, they were grown and had moved out when I met my wife 30 years ago. I can tell you this, anyone who thinks a kid is only an 18 year responsibility has never had one.:yesnod:

Truth. Nothing like a twenty something year old having to move back in with you.

Rikki Z-06
01-21-2020, 3:16pm
Second Wednesday of the month.

:rofl:

69camfrk
01-21-2020, 3:32pm
Both of my sons are well mannered, and very respectful. Eldest is 19 and youngest about to turn 16. That said, they both know that if they act out, no matter what their age is, I will still put a boot up their ass.:yesnod:

C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 3:46pm
I’ve seen it time and again. Great parents that end up with a chithead of a kid.

So frustrating to try to do the right things and still see things go south despite your best efforts.

Hubs ans I will back you when you are right but also let you pay the piper when you f up. Make your bed, sleep in it. One kid is onboard and lives as we have raised them, the other not so much.

C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 3:48pm
Truth. Nothing like a twenty something year old having to move back in with you.

Ugh. There would be some strict guidelines and a timeframe if that was ever allowed. If their situation was due to no fault of their own we would help. If dumb decisions got them there, there is a good chance it would be a solid No.

Anjdog2003
01-21-2020, 3:52pm
Get a dog. They die in 15-18 years. Get another dog.

C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 3:56pm
Get a dog. They die in 15-18 years. Get another dog.

Done.


Statistically speaking, I’m a better dog mom than a human mom. Dogs love and:banana1: listen to me.

MrPeabody
01-21-2020, 3:59pm
Ugh. There would be some strict guidelines and a timeframe if that was ever allowed. If their situation was due to no fault of their own we would help. If dumb decisions got them there, there is a good chance it would be a solid No.

Hard to say no when there's a baby in their arms. But yes, serious guidelines are in order.:yesnod:

C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 4:06pm
Hard to say no when there's a baby in their arms. But yes, serious guidelines are in order.:yesnod:

Yes, BUT...... if you have a toxic family member, it is a slippery slope to allow them back into your home for the sake of a (grand)child. It becomes very "tricky" to say the least to maintain accountability, while trying to shield the child from a bad situation.


Rock> U <Hard place

dvarapala
01-21-2020, 4:06pm
I can tell you this, anyone who thinks a kid is only an 18 year responsibility has never had one.:yesnod:

NOW you tell me. :rolleyes:

MadInNc
01-21-2020, 4:15pm
Yes, BUT...... if you have a toxic family member, it is a slippery slope to allow them back into your home for the sake of a (grand)child. It becomes very "tricky" to say the least to maintain accountability, while trying to shield the child from a bad situation.


Rock> U <Hard place


Wife raised kids as i traveled and worked. Only minor issues now. Who knows what would have happened if I was involved :rofl:

Anjdog2003
01-21-2020, 4:16pm
Done.


Statistically speaking, I’m a better dog mom than a human mom. Dogs love and:banana1: listen to me.




I would listen to you and wag my tail. :yesnod:

C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 5:08pm
I would listen to you and wag my tail. :yesnod:

:popcorns:



https://media.giphy.com/media/8cjdW7szuC7wZjFWy2/giphy.gif

LilRedCorvette
01-21-2020, 5:27pm
I’ve seen it time and again. Great parents that end up with a chithead of a kid.

So frustrating to try to do the right things and still see things go south despite your best efforts.

Hubs ans I will back you when you are right but also let you pay the piper when you f up. Make your bed, sleep in it. One kid is onboard and lives as we have raised them, the other not so much.

In the end, it's all about free will. :yesnod:

I have a friend that I met shortly after I moved here who is as sweet as can be...just a really stellar person who would do anything for anyone.

Her sister...well, is another story :nonod: has been in and out of jail, even went so far as to commit identity theft of her own sister (a situation which took forever for my poor friend to straighten out). :ack:

Her mother, whom I've met (and is as equally sweet as my friend) lamented about how her two daughters turned out so differently, "I raised them both exactly the same way", etc...

I told her not to blame herself for her other daughter choosing the wrong path...she made that choice, not you. :yesnod:

sublime1996525
01-21-2020, 5:30pm
:popcorns:



https://media.giphy.com/media/8cjdW7szuC7wZjFWy2/giphy.gif

Is it weird I'm slightly turned on by this? I'm definitely a submissive lol.

#****ingmillenials (https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=****ingmillenials)

LilRedCorvette
01-21-2020, 5:33pm
Get a dog. They die in 15-18 years. Get another dog.

I'm good with being a dog mom instead of a human mom :seasix: just wish they didn't die so soon :nonod:

Dogs also don't seem to fk up as much as human kids :Jeff '79: the worst thing they do might be tracking mud in the house or something :shrug:

Hardluck
01-21-2020, 5:33pm
Wife raised kids as i traveled and worked. Only minor issues now. Who knows what would have happened if I was involved :rofl:

For once you finally said something I actually agree with!:hurray:

Rikki Z-06
01-21-2020, 5:39pm
Is it weird I'm slightly turned on by this? I'm definitely a submissive lol.

#****ingmillenials (https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=****ingmillenials)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Sup Limey? :cert:

Anjdog2003
01-21-2020, 5:45pm
I'm good with being a dog mom instead of a human mom :seasix: just wish they didn't die so soon :nonod:

Dogs also don't seem to fk up as much as human kids :Jeff '79: the worst thing they do might be tracking mud in the house or something :shrug:




Kids far > than animals. :yesnod:


A fk'ed up kid dies you never get over it. A perfect animal dies and you get another one.


I raised two sons now 37 and 36. Both of them have a much better education than myself. Both have made far more money than i ever made, and i've made a lot. My oldest son finally got his act together at 33. He could have 300k and in a month it be gone and not very much to show of it. Neither one of my sons did drugs or much drinking. I let them know about my life and see some of the guys i grew up with. I guess it scared them enough to not go that route. The only time to worry about your kids is if they don't have it together by 40. You can't compare yourself with your kids on how things were back then, different generation and values. You just love your kids and give them over to God.

Aerovette
01-21-2020, 5:57pm
Kids far > than animals. :yesnod:


A fk'ed up kid dies you never get over it. A perfect animal dies and you get another one.


I raised two sons now 37 and 36. Both of them have a much better education than myself. Both have made far more money than i ever made, and i've made a lot. My oldest son finally got his act together at 33. He could have 300k and in a month it be gone and not very much to show of it. Neither one of my sons did drugs or much drinking. I let them know about my life and see some of the guys i grew up with. I guess it scared them enough to not go that route. The only time to worry about your kids is if they don't have it together by 40. You can't compare yourself with your kids on how things were back then, different generation and values. You just love your kids and give them over to God.

I had my shit together by 25. I then began the tedious process of dismantling it into the wreck it is today.

I Benjamin Buttoned it. :D

Thunder22
01-21-2020, 6:03pm
If there's something wrong with the way the kid acts, you can always blame it on the parents.

Datawiz
01-21-2020, 6:04pm
Y'all know GWiz, not sure I have to elaborate. Constant parental involvement from day 1 (first 10 years of mom AND dad 24/7 certainly helped), shaped who she became. Don't let schools and social media raise your kids. :yesnod:

Anjdog2003
01-21-2020, 6:13pm
I had my shit together by 25. I then began the tedious process of dismantling it into the wreck it is today.

I Benjamin Buttoned it. :D





That's because probably a woman was involved. :yesnod:

sublime1996525
01-21-2020, 6:17pm
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Sup Limey? :cert:

What’s up man?? Lol.

Rikki Z-06
01-21-2020, 6:38pm
What’s up man?? Lol.

Sick. :ack:

Hardluck
01-21-2020, 6:38pm
Kids far > than animals. :yesnod:


A fk'ed up kid dies you never get over it. A perfect animal dies and you get another one.


I raised two sons now 37 and 36. Both of them have a much better education than myself. Both have made far more money than i ever made, and i've made a lot. My oldest son finally got his act together at 33. He could have 300k and in a month it be gone and not very much to show of it. Neither one of my sons did drugs or much drinking. I let them know about my life and see some of the guys i grew up with. I guess it scared them enough to not go that route. The only time to worry about your kids is if they don't have it together by 40. You can't compare yourself with your kids on how things were back then, different generation and values. You just love your kids and give them over to God.

Damn Anj, you are actually more than half azzed! Some fantastic info there!:seasix:

Hardluck
01-21-2020, 6:39pm
Y'all know GWiz, not sure I have to elaborate. Constant parental involvement from day 1 (first 10 years of mom AND dad 24/7 certainly helped), shaped who she became. Don't let schools and social media raise your kids. :yesnod:

Right on Blind Melon!:yesnod:

C3C7NIC
01-21-2020, 7:04pm
If there's something wrong with the way the kid acts, you can always blame it on the parents.

In some cases, yes, but have seen a ton of kids come out of chit homes and turn out great.

Also seen kids from great homes turn out to be real turds. When you figure it out, lemme know.

Thunder22
01-21-2020, 7:21pm
In some cases, yes, but have seen a ton of kids come out of chit homes and turn out great.

Also seen kids from great homes turn out to be real turds. When you figure it out, lemme know.

I already did, if they turn out like shit, it's the parents fault.

If the kids overcome crap parents, that's a different situation, and good for the kids.

"kids from great homes turn out like turds" - still the parents fault.

bigblock427
01-21-2020, 8:15pm
I had and fortunately still have great parents.

When I was a kid, my parents taught me to respect my elders, manners, a firm handshake, honesty, ethics, morals, etiquette, how to set a table, open doors for ladies, say yes sir, no sir, a good work ethic, always do your best, etc.

I never wanted to let my parents down so I did what they taught me. It wasn't hard.

I always had a slight fear of my dad, so that helped persuade me to do the right things to.

I love my parents for being great parents, great friends, and teaching me the above. I have always enjoyed being with my parents. Whether I was a kid or an adult.

I am blessed.:seasix::seasix:

LilRedCorvette
01-21-2020, 8:55pm
Kids far > than animals. :yesnod:

...

:nonod: Going to have to agree to disagree on this one. :cert:

Anjdog2003
01-21-2020, 9:34pm
:nonod: Going to have to agree to disagree on this one. :cert:



Either your kids are Fk'ed up or you have none.

snide
01-21-2020, 10:05pm
My oldest son is 27 and he was always a good kid, and now he's a fine young man. Growing up, I only had to spank him once, and he deserved. But after that spanking, he knew that he wasn't in charge.

My 14 year old, is another story. I love the shithead to death, but his mother is such cupid stunt. She believes that her kids don't need parenting, but the parents should be friends. As a result, he can be an asshole at times. In public, he is respectful, but at the house, he seems to have no respect for me or Laurie. I would love to give him the spanking that he deserves, but I know that if I do, his mother would want to have me charged with assault or something stupid. :rolleyes:

Anjdog2003
01-21-2020, 10:23pm
My oldest son is 27 and he was always a good kid, and now he's a fine young man. Growing up, I only had to spank him once, and he deserved. But after that spanking, he knew that he wasn't in charge.

My 14 year old, is another story. I love the shithead to death, but his mother is such cupid stunt. She believes that her kids don't need parenting, but the parents should be friends. As a result, he can be an asshole at times. In public, he is respectful, but at the house, he seems to have no respect for me or Laurie. I would love to give him the spanking that he deserves, but I know that if I do, his mother would want to have me charged with assault or something stupid. :rolleyes:






Let her charge you. You need to take the lead in the family before the kid really Fk's up

The_Dude
01-21-2020, 11:01pm
My oldest son is 27 and he was always a good kid, and now he's a fine young man. Growing up, I only had to spank him once, and he deserved. But after that spanking, he knew that he wasn't in charge.

My 14 year old, is another story. I love the shithead to death, but his mother is such cupid stunt. She believes that her kids don't need parenting, but the parents should be friends. As a result, he can be an asshole at times. In public, he is respectful, but at the house, he seems to have no respect for me or Laurie. I would love to give him the spanking that he deserves, but I know that if I do, his mother would want to have me charged with assault or something stupid. :rolleyes:

military school :yesnod:

Aerovette
01-21-2020, 11:03pm
That's because probably a woman was involved. :yesnod:

EXACTLY !!!

At 25:
Single
Homeowner
Corvette owner
Steady job

55
Divorced
Too much house
Driving an old truck
Was unemployed for too long and only 4 years on this job

Know what happened in between? WOMEN STOLE MY BRAIN

Anjdog2003
01-21-2020, 11:03pm
military school :yesnod:



if she won't let him spank him she sure as hell won't let him go to military school. :yesnod:

Hardluck
01-21-2020, 11:12pm
EXACTLY !!!

At 25:
Single
Homeowner
Corvette owner
Steady job

55
Divorced
Too much house
Driving an old truck
Was unemployed for too long and only 4 years on this job

Know what happened in between? WOMEN STOLE MY BRAIN

And your ding ding!:yesnod:

LilRedCorvette
01-21-2020, 11:43pm
or you have none.

God bless America, where we can still write our own scripts on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. :seasix: :kimblair:

Aerovette
01-21-2020, 11:45pm
And your ding ding!:yesnod:


No, just the byproduct. :Jeff '79:

JetMechZ16
01-22-2020, 8:48am
One of each kid. They are both in their late 40s now and doing well. I didn't actually raise them, they were grown and had moved out when I met my wife 30 years ago. I can tell you this, anyone who thinks a kid is only an 18 year responsibility has never had one.:yesnod: A truer statement I've never heard! When i was 19 I left my parents home and never returned (except to visit), and never asked for anything. Not that they wouldn't have given me something if I asked but I never needed to ask. Somehow this is what I expected of my kids. Boy was I wrong. The youngest is 28 and doing fine, the 2 oldest are also fine. They all have needed some help here and there which I was fine providing. Now my 30 year old is a disaster. And I just don't have the energy to write about her right now. Let's just say we have raised her son more than she ever has.

Ugh. There would be some strict guidelines and a timeframe if that was ever allowed. If their situation was due to no fault of their own we would help. If dumb decisions got them there, there is a good chance it would be a solid No. My daughter knew not to ask to come and live with us. Her son, well her choices aren't his fault, so he can live with us. The problem arose when my MIL stuck her nose into things and told my daughter it was fine for her to move back with us. I was pissed, who the hell does she think she is to offer my home to anyone? She knows now not to ever speak for me or my wife ever again.

Hard to say no when there's a baby in their arms. But yes, serious guidelines are in order.:yesnod: They will try to use the child against you. I've told my daughter if she even remotely loves her son that she better never try and use him against me. I told her they would both be homeless at that point and she believes me. I don't think I could ever put him out, but she has to believe I would.

MadInNc
01-22-2020, 10:10am
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VatorMan
01-22-2020, 10:13am
Y'all know GWiz, not sure I have to elaborate. Constant parental involvement from day 1 (first 10 years of mom AND dad 24/7 certainly helped), shaped who she became. Don't let schools and social media raise your kids. :yesnod:

I was gone most of my kids early years in Uncle Sam's Navy so you could do that. Be careful who you preach to.

BOTY
01-22-2020, 10:29am
I had my shit together by 25. I then began the tedious process of dismantling it into the wreck it is today.

I Benjamin Buttoned it. :D

:rofl:

BOTY
01-22-2020, 10:39am
I was gone most of my kids early years in Uncle Sam's Navy so you could do that. Be careful who you preach to.

I didn't read that as preaching, parental involvement is huge to a child's upbringing. Thank you for your service. :seasix:

snide
01-22-2020, 9:54pm
military school :yesnod:

That's what I'm thinking. :yesnod:

snide
01-22-2020, 9:56pm
I was gone most of my kids early years in Uncle Sam's Navy so you could do that. Be careful who you preach to.

Is that a threat? :bigears: