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NEED-A-VETTE
01-07-2020, 11:18pm
With everything going on in that region this afternoon/evening. It’s crazy. :willy:

Ukrainian Airlines plane crashes in Tehran shortly after takeoff

By Artemis Moshtaghian and Joshua Berlinger, CNN

Updated 10:40 PM ET, Tue January 7, 2020

(CNN)A Boeing 737 plane carrying 180 passengers and crew crashed shortly after takeoff from Imam Khomeini Airport in Tehran early Wednesday local time, Iran's semi-official news agency ISNA reported.

The Ukranian Airlines plane crashed due to technical difficulties, according to ISNA.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

Technical difficulties? How could they possibly come to that conclusion already? :confused5:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/middleeast/plane-crash-iran-intl-hnk/index.html

BOTY
01-07-2020, 11:21pm
Crazy .

Lipstic
01-07-2020, 11:23pm
Wow

NEED-A-VETTE
01-07-2020, 11:32pm
The FAA already set restrictions for that area a few hours ago due to what was happening. It just seems like such an odd coincidence that a plane then goes down. Especially suspect is the fact that they have already rushed into the “mechanical failure” determination. :confused5:

But I guess stranger things have happened. :shrug:

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FAA issues emergency restriction for Iraq, Iran, Persian Gulf airspace after Iran missile attacks

Louis Casiano1 hour ago

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is restricting flights over Iraq, Iran and Persian Gulf airspace in response to Iranian missile attacks that targeted two bases housing U.S. troops in Iraq Wednesday.

The FAA cited a potential for miscalculation or misidentification for the restrictions on U.S. civil aviation operators.

"The Federal Aviation Administration issued Notices to Airmen (NOTAMS) tonight outlining flight restrictions that prohibit U.S. civil aviation operators from operating in the airspace over Iraq, Iran, and the waters of the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman," the agency said in a statement.

Some international air carriers are avoiding the airspace, as well. Singapore Airlines announced it was diverting flights from Iranian airspace to Europe, Bloomberg reported.

The FAA notice comes hours after Iran took responsibility for firing more than a dozen ballistic missiles into Iraq that targeted U.S. and coalition forces. The airstrikes were in response to the death of Iranian Quds Force Gen. Qassem Soleimani last week.

Soleimani was killed in a U.S.-ordered drone strike at Baghdad International Airport early Friday, along with several Iraqi military leaders. The killing has escalated tensions between Washington and Tehran, with each side threatening military force in the days since.

The FAA said the restrictions are due to “heightened military activities and increased political tensions in the Middle East, which present an inadvertent risk to U.S. civil aviation operations.” The agency said it was monitoring the situation in the Middle East and was sharing "information with U.S. air carriers and foreign civil authorities."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/faa-emergency-restrictions-iraq-iran-persian-gulf-airspace-missile-attacks

BOTY
01-07-2020, 11:37pm
Is Nox on the road? :seasix:

NEED-A-VETTE
01-07-2020, 11:45pm
Is Nox on the road? :seasix:

He’s everywhere...all the time.

Watch your six. :leaving:

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BOTY
01-07-2020, 11:49pm
He’s everywhere...all the time.

Watch your six. :leaving:

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:USA: respect. :yesnod:

A/E
01-08-2020, 6:25am
The Wag the Dog Theorist say why not throw some Ukraine Intrigue into this scenario.

Meanwhile, Get Mayor Pete on CNN for game of Checkers...

Hard to really believe and get anything honest from any media outlets or sources when there's been so many years of CIA counterintelligence and Pallets of Cash bandied out in these "hot spots"

Who's deceiving who and why ?

Real Answers are about as clear as Epstien's Suicide

Lakota
01-08-2020, 8:28am
Vadym Prystaiko, Ukraine’s minister of foreign affairs, said 63 Canadians, 82 Iranians and 11 Ukrainians were on board— the Ukrainian nationals included two passengers and the nine crew. There were also 10 Swedish, four Afghan, three German and three British nationals.

It remains unclear what happened. Qassem Biniaz, a spokesman for Iran’s Road and Transportation Ministry, said it appeared a fire struck one of its engines. The pilot of the aircraft then lost control of the plane, sending it crashing into the ground.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/01/08/63-canadians-killed-in-plane-crash-near-tehran-ukrainian-official-says.html

Aerovette
01-08-2020, 8:34am
Ground crews and mechanics jobs have been compromised. I'd look there first, but actually believe it is just a coincidence...an odd one, but coincidence. No one has claimed responsibility so I don't put much "conspiracy" in to it.

Rob
01-08-2020, 8:35am
Iran's definition of "technical" - Your lame ass can't fly a plane without a wing and 1/2 the cockpit.

NEED-A-VETTE
01-08-2020, 9:05am
It looks like Ukraine is walking back their statement that is was mechanical failure. For now.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/08/iran-plane-crash-170-passengers-feared-dead-ukraine-boeing-737/

NEED-A-VETTE
01-08-2020, 9:09am
Ground crews and mechanics jobs have been compromised. I'd look there first, but actually believe it is just a coincidence...an odd one, but coincidence. No one has claimed responsibility so I don't put much "conspiracy" in to it.

If it wasn’t a terrorist group and was accidentally shot down by Iran, I don’t think they’re going to openly claim responsibility. :shrug:

Broken Wind
01-08-2020, 9:21am
Iran remains nearly as incompetent as they were 40 yrs ago. They just have more modern weaponry. This was an Iranian **** up. There’s no other plausible explanation.

Aerovette
01-08-2020, 9:21am
If it wasn’t a terrorist group and was accidentally shot down by Iran, I don’t think they’re going to openly claim responsibility. :shrug:

If it promotes their cause, I don't think they have any rule book.

Rodnok1
01-08-2020, 9:23am
It's a shame whatever the reason it crashed, hope they didn't shoot their own airplane down though...

Broken Wind
01-08-2020, 9:26am
Notice the “technical holes” in the fuselage.

RED-85-Z51
01-08-2020, 7:50pm
Page has miraculously vanished but they showed a real time playback of the flights telemetry from ground to loss of signal and it was an absolutely uneventful takeoff and climb, they maintained a steady rate of climb and were about to pass 8000 and poof...no transponder signal and its on fire breaking apart.

Murray
01-08-2020, 7:52pm
2 kids from the school division where my wife works were on the plane with their families

JRD77VET
01-08-2020, 7:55pm
2 kids from the school division where my wife works were on the plane with their families

:sadangel: :sadangel: :sadangel: :sadangel:

Steve_R
01-08-2020, 7:57pm
2 kids from the school division where my wife works were on the plane with their families

Why? I read that many onboard were Canadian. Who goes to Iran on vacation?

NEED-A-VETTE
01-08-2020, 8:01pm
If it promotes their cause, I don't think they have any rule book.

That would not promote their cause. At all.

If they shot down a passenger plane and killed civilians, it will absolutely not bring sympathy to their side. They need allies. This will not help them. It does the opposite.

Iran had no intention of kill Americans yesterday. They were saber rattling. Nothing more. if they shot down a plane and killed almost 200 people, that was a monumental mistake that they are not likely to confess. At least not willingly.


2 kids from the school division where my wife works were on the plane with their families

Oooooof. That’s rough. :sadangel:

Murray
01-08-2020, 8:08pm
Why? I read that many onboard were Canadian. Who goes to Iran on vacation?

Iranians :shrug:

Murray
01-08-2020, 8:09pm
One from grade 5, the other from grade 6

Also a wedding party/family of the bride and groom....about 25 of them from Edmonton

markids77
01-08-2020, 8:31pm
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Hollowpoints. They work.

Nox
01-09-2020, 12:41am
Is Nox on the road? :seasix:

I was out of town for a while. Just got back. Coincidence? :D

Anjdog2003
01-09-2020, 12:52am
I was out of town for a while. Just got back. Coincidence? :D




Did Sandy have a hot meal waiting for you?

ZipZap
01-09-2020, 1:56am
Some talking about anti-missile system gone awry. Also, Iran not giving the recorders to Ukraine, or Boeing, yet.

Things that make you go hmmmm...

NEED-A-VETTE
01-09-2020, 9:11am
Did Sandy have a hot meal waiting for you?

He said he didn’t want it. :shrug:

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96 Vette CE
01-09-2020, 9:22am
Iran shot that plane out of the sky, whether mistakenly or not. Commercial airliners don't just nosedive without warning, news outlets are reporting that it happened so quickly that there was no radio transmission from the pilot or crew whatsoever. :yesnod:

Bill
01-09-2020, 9:35am
https://i.redd.it/v2a11pzh4r941.jpg

Rob
01-09-2020, 9:52am
video

z06psi
01-09-2020, 9:54am
Bitch was breaking up before it hit the ground.

96 Vette CE
01-09-2020, 10:19am
Bitch was breaking up before it hit the ground.

:iagree:

Strats-N-Vettes
01-09-2020, 10:24am
Iran shot that plane out of the sky, whether mistakenly or not. Commercial airliners don't just nosedive without warning, news outlets are reporting that it happened so quickly that there was no radio transmission from the pilot or crew whatsoever. :yesnod:

Or sabotage from ground crew.
Strategically placed FOD.
All you crackers look alike...towel heads thought them Ukrainians were Americans.

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96 Vette CE
01-09-2020, 10:28am
Or sabotage from ground crew.
Strategically placed FOD.
All you crackers look alike...towel heads thought them Ukrainians were Americans.

.



Iran didn't want any part of killing Americans, the missile strikes were just to save face :yesnod:

Strats-N-Vettes
01-09-2020, 10:33am
Or sabotage from ground crew.
Strategically placed FOD.
All you crackers look alike...towel heads thought them Ukrainians were Americans.

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Iran didn't want any part of killing Americans, the missile strikes were just to save face :yesnod:



It's not like that country is loaded with political geniuses.

96 Vette CE
01-09-2020, 10:45am
It's not like that country is loaded with political geniuses.

Troof! :rofl:

Aerovette
01-09-2020, 11:19am
He said he didn’t want it. :shrug:

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Of course not. WTH is the TOY !! ??? :mad:

Aerovette
01-09-2020, 11:23am
That would not promote their cause. At all.

If they shot down a passenger plane and killed civilians, it will absolutely not bring sympathy to their side. They need allies. This will not help them. It does the opposite.

Iran had no intention of kill Americans yesterday. They were saber rattling. Nothing more. if they shot down a plane and killed almost 200 people, that was a monumental mistake that they are not likely to confess. At least not willingly.



I was only considering the "infidels are infidels, who cares?" aspect, but you are correct, for any global sympathy, that would be a bad move.

MrPeabody
01-09-2020, 12:41pm
Yep, shot down.

https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

BOTY
01-09-2020, 1:16pm
I was out of town for a while. Just got back. Coincidence? :D

:dance:

The_Dude
01-09-2020, 1:46pm
Yep, shot down.

https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

Unintended consequences.

sublime1996525
01-09-2020, 1:50pm
Unintended consequences.

Yep. :sadangel:

JetMechZ16
01-09-2020, 1:52pm
Yep, shot down.

https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

But it's scientifically impossible!!

dvarapala
01-09-2020, 1:57pm
Yep, shot down.

https://www.newsweek.com/iranians-shot-down-ukraine-flight-mistake-sources-1481313?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

Incompetent ****s. :rolleyes:

DAB
01-09-2020, 2:09pm
Abdul! do not push the RED button!! :slap:

MrPeabody
01-09-2020, 2:28pm
Remember when we "accidentally" shot down one of their civilian airliners years ago? Not arguing the circumstances of that incident or if it was justified. You know they didn't like it. This is the kind of time frame they are acting within. They will **** with us for a thousand years, and we can't even be sure who will be leading our country next year.

This is the crux of the problem in dealing with these people. They don't see the calendar the same way we do.

mrvette
01-09-2020, 2:40pm
Remember when we "accidentally" shot down one of their civilian airliners years ago? Not arguing the circumstances of that incident or if it was justified. You know they didn't like it. This is the kind of time frame they are acting within. They will **** with us for a thousand years, and we can't even be sure who will be leading our country next year.

This is the crux of the problem in dealing with these people. They don't see the calendar the same way we do.

Blast EVERY electric plant in ALL of iran, and guess watt?? we dun killered their watts, so wat's the diff,?? we don't have to deal with them anymore....

:issues:

MrPeabody
01-09-2020, 3:03pm
Blast EVERY electric plant in ALL of iran, and guess watt?? we dun killered their watts, so wat's the diff,?? we don't have to deal with them anymore....

:issues:

Do you think Iran is the only place in the world where they live?

69camfrk
01-09-2020, 4:42pm
This just keeps getting better. We whack one of their terrorist general's, and like 56 muzzies get stomped to death at his funeral, and countless more on a plane they blew out of the sky by accident. I see the humor.:rofl:

dvarapala
01-09-2020, 4:44pm
This just keeps getting better. We whack one of their terrorist general's, and like 56 muzzies get stomped to death at his funeral, and countless more on a plane they blew out of the sky by accident. I see the humor.:rofl:

Maybe Allah is trying to tell them something. :D

NEED-A-VETTE
01-10-2020, 11:24pm
Iran says it "unintentionally" shot down Ukrainian airplane :sadangel: :nonod:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-plane-crash-iranians-deny-us-claims-missile-shot-down-ukrainian-plane-today-2020-01-10-live-updates/

higgyburners
01-10-2020, 11:28pm
Iran says it "unintentionally" shot down Ukrainian airplane :sadangel: :nonod:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-plane-crash-iranians-deny-us-claims-missile-shot-down-ukrainian-plane-today-2020-01-10-live-updates/

We should of destroyed them at the time of the Munich massacre :yesnod:

Nox
01-11-2020, 12:03am
We should of destroyed them at the time of the Munich massacre :yesnod:

The Munich massacre was carried out by the Palestinians in 1972 and involved Israeli athletes. During that time, the United States, supported the Shah of Iran. Nixon supported Iran in it’s struggle against Iraq. So your assertion is a bit skewed.

BOTY
01-11-2020, 12:37am
The Munich massacre was carried out by the Palestinians in 1972 and involved Israeli athletes. During that time, the United States, supported the Shah of Iran. Nixon supported Iran in it’s struggle against Iraq. So your assertion is a bit skewed.

I couldn't agree more but This "war" has been going on for decades 1979 if I'm correct.

Nox
01-11-2020, 3:32pm
I couldn't agree more but This "war" has been going on for decades 1979 if I'm correct.

Decades? The Spartans fought the Saracens in 480 B.C. :rofl:

BOTY
01-11-2020, 3:38pm
Decades? The Spartans fought the Saracens in 480 B.C. :rofl:

Well I wasn't going back that far, just USA stuff. :D