View Full Version : [Breaking] Active shooter at veteran’s home in Napa.
NEED-A-VETTE
03-09-2018, 2:43pm
State officials have confirmed that the Yountville Veteran's Home in Napa County is on lockdown after reports of gunfire near the facility's main dining hall.
No link, yet.
Scanner traffic...LEOs have taken gunfire. No injuries that I can hear them talking about. But snipers were given the green light. Sounds like hostages taken.
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 2:47pm
Police Investigating Report Of Gunfire At Napa County Veterans Home « CBS Sacramento (http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/03/09/napa-county-veterans-home-incident/)
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 2:51pm
Reports of shots fired at Yountville Veterans Home - Story | KTVU (http://www.ktvu.com/news/reports-of-shots-fired-at-yountville-veterans-home)
This TV station's sports editor live in Napa and is on the scene.
They are confirming three hostages taken.
Cybercowboy
03-09-2018, 3:12pm
Yountville? That's like the last place in the country you'd expect something like that. Hope everyone is OK.
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 3:14pm
Yountville? That's like the last place in the country you'd expect something like that. Hope everyone is OK.
:iagree: My guess is it's somebody with a beef with the VA. So far no report of any injuries.
Sea Six
03-09-2018, 3:21pm
:iagree: My guess is it's somebody with a beef with the VA. So far no report of any injuries.
My first thought.
guess they need bigger "gun free zone" signs.
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 3:46pm
guess they need bigger "gun free zone" signs.
What makes you think it's a gun free zone? California VA facilities employ armed security officers.
The Veterans Home of California is located in Yountville, California, and was founded in 1884.[1][2]
The facility is the largest of its kind in the United States and has a population of 1,200 aged and disabled veterans of World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, War in Afghanistan, and Operation Enduring Freedom/Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Veterans Home of California Yountville - Wikipedia
What makes you think it's a gun free zone? California VA facilities employ armed security officers.
no guns allowed by visitors, staff, residents. just those in uniform.
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 4:56pm
no guns allowed by visitors, staff, residents. just those in uniform.
Like any medical facility. Except a MASH unit, maybe.:D
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 5:01pm
Law enforcement is going to have a press conference in a few minutes. They are being pretty tight-lipped with info so far because they seem to think the shooter could have access to a TV and they don't want the shooter to know what they know.
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 5:04pm
State Senator Bill Dodd is being quoted as saying they have identified the shooter and he is a veteran who was being treated for PTSD and was discharged two weeks ago. Press conference beginning now...
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 5:19pm
Police said the shooter and three hostages are confined to one room, with police tactical teams in the building. No one injured, although the first LEO on the scene exchanged gunfire with the shooter. Those were the only shots fired so far.
VatorMan
03-09-2018, 7:17pm
:sadangel: wife and I remember that home- on a hill overlooking wine country. PTSD or not, perp has given the green light to end his existence.
MrPeabody
03-09-2018, 11:49pm
All dead. :(
Damn. I've been away from the news for a few hours.
OddBall
03-10-2018, 5:07am
:sadangel:
Sea Six
03-10-2018, 5:40am
All the hostages were women.
And one was seven months pregnant.
:sadangel: :sadangel: :sadangel: :sadangel:
NEED-A-VETTE
03-10-2018, 5:55am
https://www.yahoo.com/news/official-gunman-takes-hostages-california-vets-home-193619866.html
Gunman in California vet center killings was former patient
March 10, 2018
YOUNTVILLE, Calif. (AP)
The gunman who killed three people who work for a California program that treats veterans for post-traumatic stress disorder was kicked out of the program, a relative of one victim said Friday.
Albert Wong, 36, was identified as the man who went to The Pathway House therapy center on the sprawling campus of the largest veterans homes in the country and took a psychologist and two executives hostage, authorities said.
Wong slipped into a going-away party for two employees of The Pathway Home, authorities said.
Gunshots were fired around 10:30 a.m. after he arrived at the Veterans Home of California-Yountville but nothing more was heard from him or the women until their bodies were found at about 6 p.m., authorities said.
Wong's rental car was found nearby. A bomb-sniffing dog alerted on the car but no bombs were found, only a cellphone, authorities said.
Killed were program Executive Director Christine Loeber, 48; Clinical Director Jennifer Golick, 42; and Jennifer Gonzalez, 29, a clinical psychologist with the San Francisco Department of Veterans Affairs Healthcare System.
"These brave women were accomplished professionals who dedicated their careers to serving our nation's veterans, working closely with those in the greatest need of attention after deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan," The Pathway Home said in a statement.
Gov. Jerry Brown said flags would be flown at half-staff at the capitol and said that he and his wife "are deeply saddened by the horrible violence."
Golick was the top psychologist at the nonprofit home, which treats combat veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan.
She called her husband, Mark, around 10:30 a.m. to say that she had been taken hostage, Bob Golick said.
Mark didn't hear from her again, Malick said.
It was "far too early to say if they were chosen at random" because investigators had not yet determined a motive, California Highway Patrol Assistant Chief Chris Childs said.
However, Golick's father-in-law said she had recently ordered Wong removed from the program.
Wong had been an Army infantryman who served a year in Afghanistan from 2011 to 2012. He held a number of service awards, including one for expert marksmanship with a rifle.
Yountville, about 53 miles (85 kilometers) north of San Francisco, is one of the Napa Valley's most upscale towns, located in the heart of wine country.
A sheriff's deputy responding to an emergency call Friday morning got into a shootout with the gunman but wasn't injured.
Highway Patrol Sgt. Robert Nacke said negotiators were unable to make contact with the gunman throughout the day.
Larry Kamer told The Associated Press that his wife, Devereaux Smith, was at a morning staff party and told him by phone that the gunman had entered the room quietly, letting some people leave while taking others hostage.
Smith, a fundraiser for the nonprofit Pathway Home, was still inside the facility's dining hall and was not allowed to leave, he said.
Police evacuated the property and closed off nearby roads to the veterans complex, which houses about 1,000 residents.
Army veteran and resident Bob Sloan, 73, was working at the home's TV station when a co-worker came in and said he had heard four gunshots coming from the Pathway Home. Sloan sent alerts for residents to stay put.
A group of about 80 students who were on the home's grounds were safely evacuated after being locked down, Napa County Sheriff John Robertson said. The teens from Justin-Siena High School were at a theater rehearsing a play.
"They were a distance away from the shooting situation," Robertson said.
The state Veterans Affairs department said the home that opened in 1884 is the nation's largest veterans home and cares for elderly and disabled residents.
Yvette Bennett, a wound-care supply worker who supplies the veterans center, was turned back when she tried to deliver what she called urgently needed medical supplies for two patients inside.
Of all the medical institutions she has worked with, "this is the most placid, calm, serene place," she said. Earlier this week, when she last visited, she asked a doctor, "What's your magic here?"
"And then 48 hours later this happens," Bennett said.
Jeff '79
03-10-2018, 7:19am
Well that sucks. :sadangel:
I just e-mailed that link to my daughter who is in her 3rd year of med school.
Title of the e-mail? :
"The field that you are thinking of entering could be quite dangerous."
She is gravitating toward a field in psychology.
Yow...
What makes you think it's a gun free zone? California VA facilities employ armed security officers.
Looks like the facility was a "State (California) Veterans Home" NOT a Federal US Government facility. It was mentioned that they have security guards BUT they were NOT allowed to be armed.
US Government facilities have been hardened over the last few years. Stunned when I walked into a suburban US Social Security Office a few weeks ago. Bulletproof glass and put your paperwork through a security slot. They had an armed (pistol) female guard.
mrvette
03-10-2018, 8:57am
Well that sucks. :sadangel:
I just e-mailed that link to my daughter who is in her 3rd year of med school.
Title of the e-mail? :
"The field that you are thinking of entering could be quite dangerous."
She is gravitating toward a field in psychology.
Yow...
My daughter in Baltimore has worked at 3 .gov agencies, first two she had to get assaulted by the patients....master degree in psych counseling....what a crap field.....SO now at the third .gov facility the 'patients' are supposed to be younger, as in little kids or something safer anyway....more guards and help around SO SUPPOSEDLY she is safer on the job.....
watt a joke.....total waste of time ......
Damn. :sadangel::sadangel::sadangel:
MrPeabody
03-10-2018, 1:20pm
Looks like the facility was a "State (California) Veterans Home" NOT a Federal US Government facility. It was mentioned that they have security guards BUT they were NOT allowed to be armed.
US Government facilities have been hardened over the last few years. Stunned when I walked into a suburban US Social Security Office a few weeks ago. Bulletproof glass and put your paperwork through a security slot. They had an armed (pistol) female guard.
I know it was a state facility. Where I got my information about guards being armed was the state website for these facilities. I looked under their jobs section and the job description for security guards. The qualifications for the job included a general knowledge of firearms and the ability to use weapons with lethal force.
Perhaps their website was out of date and they used to have armed guards. Perhaps they were planning to arm their guards and wanted new hires to be proficient in that area. An interview I heard with an employee there confirms what you say about the guards not being armed. He said it was a cost issue, because guards who are certified to be armed command a higher salary.This facility is huge, and manning the entire place with armed guards would be very costly. I'm sure they will be studying the issue after this event. This shooter had been kicked out of the program and was a time bomb waiting to go off. It may be that just an armed guard at the gate would have been enough to stop him if security had been made aware of him. We'll never know.
Another thing is the program where the shooting took place was privately run and was using space on the VA facility. Perhaps they were responsible for their own security. What is troubling is that most agree that more mental services for veterans are needed, but they will now be thought of by many as danger zones themselves. A very difficult situation, for sure.
Jeff '79
03-10-2018, 4:45pm
My daughter in Baltimore has worked at 3 .gov agencies, first two she had to get assaulted by the patients....master degree in psych counseling....what a crap field.....SO now at the third .gov facility the 'patients' are supposed to be younger, as in little kids or something safer anyway....more guards and help around SO SUPPOSEDLY she is safer on the job.....
watt a joke.....total waste of time ......
And she'll prolly make $250k+/yr for a 9-5 , forget work after you're home, job. (Think quality of life).
Be a surgeon and make $300-400/yr, but the job owns you.
She's blonde, smart, and single.
She'll find a mate so that her doctor gig will just be a hobby.... That is if she chooses to pursue it.
Gene... You are so off the mark on that comment that it makes you look stoopit. :slap:
Psychologists will be the hottest commodity very soon, as the politicians finally figure out that the USA needs a shit ton more, due to all of the wackos out there shooting up the place. There is a shortage of them right now.
Look up forensic psycologist.... That'll be her ticket. :yesnod:
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