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Fasglas
12-29-2017, 4:47am
...and offers up a weak excuse. Is anyone REALLY fooled?

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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/28/apple-batterygate-letter-full-text.html

Apple apologizes for iPhone slowdowns and offers $29 battery replacements

People buy the iPhone 8 at the Apple Orchard Shop in Singapore September 22, 2017.
Apple apologizes for iPhone slowdowns, reduces price of battery replacements
11 Hours Ago | 01:55

Apple released a statement on Thursday addressing the company's controversial decision to slow down older phones to protect battery stability.

"We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize. There's been a lot of misunderstanding about this issue, so we would like to clarify and let you know about some changes we're making. First and foremost, we have never — and would never — do anything to intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades. Our goal has always been to create products that our customers love, and making iPhones last as long as possible is an important part of that."

The company said it is slashing $50 off the out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement for the next year, bringing the cost down to $29 for anyone with an iPhone 6 starting in late January. A new software update will also hit early next year giving users more insight into battery life.
How Apple's software fix became 'battery gate'

John Poole, founder of software company Primate Labs, found earlier this month that iPhone 6s models running iOS version 10.2 and 11.2, and iPhone 7 phones running iOS 11.2, were more likely to have instances of lower processing speed. That research, using his company's software, confirmed a viral Reddit post from a user that noticed an increase in his phone's processing speed after replacing the battery.

The issue gained steam when Apple backed up Poole's findings, noting on December 20 that Apple was trying to "smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device from unexpectedly shutting down" when conditions were cold or as batteries aged.

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By that time, consumers had taken to social media, outraged that they had not been informed of the change or given the option to replace the battery (rather than buy a new, faster phone). Poole told CNBC at the time that he thought Apple's approach to fixing the issue was reasonable, but the messaging was off.

It's relatively rare for Apple to comment on critical news stories. But this month's incident, which has come to be known as "battery gate," isn't the first time Apple has released a mea culpa for a product. For example, Apple shifted its stance on App Store guidelines in 2010, and issued an extensive apology for issues with the iPhone 4.

— CNBC's Paayal Zaveri contributed to this report

Here's the full letter



A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Performance

"We've been hearing feedback from our customers about the way we handle performance for iPhones with older batteries and how we have communicated that process. We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize. There's been a lot of misunderstanding about this issue, so we would like to clarify and let you know about some changes we're making.

First and foremost, we have never — and would never — do anything to intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades. Our goal has always been to create products that our customers love, and making iPhones last as long as possible is an important part of that.

How batteries age

All rechargeable batteries are consumable components that become less effective as they chemically age and their ability to hold a charge diminishes. Time and the number of times a battery has been charged are not the only factors in this chemical aging process.

Device use also affects the performance of a battery over its lifespan. For example, leaving or charging a battery in a hot environment can cause a battery to age faster. These are characteristics of battery chemistry, common to lithium-ion batteries across the industry.

A chemically aged battery also becomes less capable of delivering peak energy loads, especially in a low state of charge, which may result in a device unexpectedly shutting itself down in some situations.

To help customers learn more about iPhone's rechargeable battery and the factors affecting its performance, we've posted a new support article, iPhone Battery and Performance.

It should go without saying that we think sudden, unexpected shutdowns are unacceptable. We don't want any of our users to lose a call, miss taking a picture or have any other part of their iPhone experience interrupted if we can avoid it.

Preventing unexpected shutdowns

About a year ago in iOS 10.2.1, we delivered a software update that improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, and iPhone SE. With the update, iOS dynamically manages the maximum performance of some system components when needed to prevent a shutdown. While these changes may go unnoticed, in some cases users may experience longer launch times for apps and other reductions in performance.

Customer response to iOS 10.2.1 was positive, as it successfully reduced the occurrence of unexpected shutdowns. We recently extended the same support for iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus in iOS 11.2.

Of course, when a chemically aged battery is replaced with a new one, iPhone performance returns to normal when operated in standard conditions.

Recent user feedback

Over the course of this fall, we began to receive feedback from some users who were seeing slower performance in certain situations. Based on our experience, we initially thought this was due to a combination of two factors: a normal, temporary performance impact when upgrading the operating system as iPhone installs new software and updates apps, and minor bugs in the initial release which have since been fixed.

We now believe that another contributor to these user experiences is the continued chemical aging of the batteries in older iPhone 6 and iPhone 6s devices, many of which are still running on their original batteries.

Addressing customer concerns

We've always wanted our customers to be able to use their iPhones as long as possible. We're proud that Apple products are known for their durability, and for holding their value longer than our competitors' devices.

To address our customers' concerns, to recognize their loyalty and to regain the trust of anyone who may have doubted Apple's intentions, we've decided to take the following steps:

Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com.
Early in 2018, we will issue an iOS software update with new features that give users more visibility into the health of their iPhone's battery, so they can see for themselves if its condition is affecting performance.
As always, our team is working on ways to make the user experience even better, including improving how we manage performance and avoid unexpected shutdowns as batteries age.

At Apple, our customers' trust means everything to us. We will never stop working to earn and maintain it. We are able to do the work we love only because of your faith and support — and we will never forget that or take it for granted."

04 commemorative
12-29-2017, 8:44am
saw that on news last night,another reason to have a Samsung

erickpl
12-29-2017, 8:54am
People don't seem to bitch and moan when Windows machines get slower over time. I've always known that more and more code in OS's to handle the cool/neat features takes memory. Nevermind that OS upgrades make upgrading apps a requirement and some apps don't get upgraded.

I'm not Apple is good or bad here, but they're really no different than anybody else who's tech crap slows down over time. They just did it a different way.

I still have a useable iMac from 2008. Granted with the last OS upgrade it FINALLY got to the point of being unenjoyable to use, but 9 years of use from a desktop? I'll take it.

Rob
12-29-2017, 9:04am
Kid lives here in Nashville :seasix:

Fasglas
12-29-2017, 1:36pm
***UPDATE***

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/28/french-lawsuit-filed-against-apple-for-slowing-down-iphones-could-come-with-jail-time/?utm_term=.de2e05f35ec5

Apple will offer discounts on replacement batteries, following lawsuits over iPhone slowdowns

Apple apologized to customers Thursday for not being clear that the company slows down phones with aging batteries. Apple promised that it will “give users more visibility into the health of their iPhone’s battery” and let people see whether their battery's age affects their phone's performance.

Apple is offering a discount on battery replacements to anyone with an iPhone 6 or later, the company said in a statement. A battery replacement will cost $29 instead of $79 starting in late January. The cheaper price is more in line with third-party repair shops.

While Apple's message was apologetic, it still rejected allegations that the company slowed down phones with older batteries as a way to push people into buying new phones. “First and foremost, we have never — and would never — do anything to intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades,” Apple said.

The company said previously that unless it reduces the performance of its phones, the older batteries run a higher risk of spontaneously shutting down. This explanation makes technical sense, many experts have said.

Apple's disclosure last week that it slows down phones has sparked criticism and lawsuits. A French consumer rights group filed a suit Wednesday that accuses Apple of degrading its old phones to sell new ones. In France, it's illegal to degrade old products to promote the sale of new ones, meaning that the suit filed in France by the group Halte à l’Obsolescence Programmée carries the possibility of up to two years in prison.

The group, which lays out its case in an online statement, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. It has also previously sued printer companies, including Epson, over claims that they violate the same law. The printer case is under investigation.

Apple also faces at least eight lawsuits from iPhone owners in places such as California, New York, New Jersey and Israel that claim Apple owes its customers money for not previously disclosing the slowdowns. The suits ask the company to pay iPhone owners varying amounts. One California suit seeks nearly $1 trillion in damages.

South Korean government telecommunications officials also have said that they will look into the reports, according to the Korea Herald.

Critics' arguments largely have rested on two claims — that Apple hurt the performance of the phones in secret and that doing so made it more likely that someone would buy a new iPhone rather than fix their old one.

That, argues one lawsuit filed in the Eastern District of New York, amounts to a sort of fraud: “Had Plaintiffs been informed by Apple that a simple battery replacement would have improved the performance of their iPhones, Plaintiffs would have chosen to replace their batteries which was clearly a more cost effective method rather than upgrading to a new iPhone that was extremely costly.”

Apple did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the suits or the investigation.

The suits cap off a rocky year for Apple, which saw a lot of financial success but also a number of small controversies — including a bug that prevented iPhone owners from typing “i” and several software issues. It also faced criticism over a lukewarm reception for its iPhone X and had to delay the release of its smart speaker, the HomePod, until 2018.

That said, Apple's not hurting on the business front. Chief executive Tim Cook earned a $9.33 million end-of-year bonus thanks to strong stock market performance. And Apple appears to be finishing the year strong, with more people starting up new iPhones and iPads than devices from any other gadget maker this year, according to the research firm Flurry Analytics.

Aerovette
12-29-2017, 4:35pm
No one needs a phone nanny. Let the system run as is and if it begins to die faster, the owner can decide what action to take. I think it is absolute BS anyway. It was done to push for replacement buys and in a "Coke Classic" move, now it will promote battery sales.