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Fasglas
12-19-2017, 8:09pm
So, for 50+ years, no problem with the trees. All of a sudden, these trees have become racist? It would seem the residents, themselves, could deal with it, but it appears ANOTHER way to pay for the removal has been found.
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‘Racist’ trees separating a black neighborhood from a golf (http://www.ajc.com/news/racist-trees-separating-black-neighborhood-from-golf-course-will-come-down/d93DbErgWDfmdTIBdvYI1L/)

"Racist" trees seperating a black neighborhood from a golf course will come down.

PALM SPRINGS, Calif. — Palm Springs will remove a row of*trees blocking a*historically African-American neighborhood*from a city-owned golf course.*********

At an informal meeting with neighborhood residents Sunday, Palm Springs Mayor Robert Moon, council member J.R. Roberts and other city officials promised residents they would remove the tamarisk trees and a chain link fence along the Crossley Tract property lines as soon as possible.

Many longtime residents of the neighborhood*previously told the (Palm Springs, Calif.) Desert Sun*they believed the trees were planted for racist reasons in the 1960s, and remained a lasting remnant of the history of segregation in the city. *Residents said the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course and San Jacinto mountains, have artificially depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property over the past half century.

Roberts apologized to the Crossley Tract residents for any wrongdoing by the city in the past and said he and the rest of the council wanted to make the necessary changes to ensure future generations didn’t have to deal with the same problems current and past residents faced.

“You asked why it took us this long,” Roberts told about 50 residents gathered for the meeting. “I can’t answer that. But guess what? We’re here now.”

Moon said Sunday he and Roberts had only a combined four years on the council and the problems posed by the trees only recently came to their attention. Moon said after he became aware of the issue, he visited the neighborhood to get a first-hand idea of what residents' concerns were.

Both Moon and Roberts assured residents that the neighborhood had the support of the entire council.

“It’s a new city council and a new time,” Moon said.

City manager David Ready said the tree removal wouldn’t be immediate because the full city council would have to approve the matter. Arborists also would have to be consulted, and the project — like any requiring significant city funds — would have to be put out to bid, Ready said. He estimated the trees could be down within three months.

Ready previously said estimates the city had received for removing the trees were about $169,000. Approval of expenditures more than $20,000 have to go to the city council for the thumbs up, and city officials also have to figure out where, in a city budget stretched thin by rising public safety costs and hundreds of millions of unfunded pension liabilities and retiree healthcare costs, that money will be allocated from.

“It’s not about a price to pay, it’s about finding the money,” Roberts said at the neighborhood meeting.

Residents, led by real estate agent Trae Daniel, who moved into the neighborhood 14 years ago, have made four demands of the city. They include: removing the trees; building a 6-foot privacy wall for residents who want it; installing netting or something similar to prevent errant golf balls from flying into residents' yards; and planting new trees similar to those seen along other parts of the course.

Roberts said taking out the trees was the first step and after that had been taken care of, they would meet with residents to discuss what should be done next.

Many of the original inhabitants of the neighborhood were families who had been forcibly removed from during the 1950s and 1960s. Now some of downtown Palm Springs’ most lucrative real estate, the portion of the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians’ reservation hosting the convention center, casino and hotels was once home to thousands of black and Latino residents. They were evicted and their homes were bulldozed and burned when the city and the tribe agreed to clear the land for new development.

The Crossley Tract was founded by Lawrence Crossley, Palm Springs’ first African American resident, in 1956. Crossley intended the 20-acre tract, which at the time was outside city limits, to be a place where black families who worked in Palm Springs but were barred from living there could live. City records indicate the area was incorporated into the city about a decade later, after Crossley’s death.

At the same time, residential golf resorts were popping up all over the city. In 1958, work started on the Tahquitz Creek Golf Course, which was purchased by the city the following year when the developer ran into financial issues. Luxury condo developments were built-up around the course, and in the mid 1960s the trees were planted along the east side of the 14th fairway, blocking Crossley Tract residents' views of the course and the mountains and hiding the neighborhood from view from the course.

Bill
12-19-2017, 8:42pm
Somebody needs to alert the environmentalists, about this environmental disaster. Those trees sequester CO2. Cutting those trees down will release that CO2 and cause global warming, and everybody will die.

Der Flieger
12-19-2017, 8:44pm
The "R" word gets thrown around a lot these days.

m and t's77
12-19-2017, 8:58pm
The "R" word gets thrown around a lot these days.

:iagree:
The whole situation is retarded.

OddBall
12-19-2017, 9:03pm
Are they sure those aren't "White" pines?

Bill
12-19-2017, 9:38pm
Rush - The Trees - YouTube

snide
12-19-2017, 10:17pm
:iagree:
The whole situation is retarded.

Good thing you live in Cow Hampshire. If you lived in Massholeland, you'd get fined for that word. :toetap: :rolleyes:

erickpl
12-20-2017, 9:05am
What are they going to say when the white golf balls come through where the trees USED to be and start causing damage?

What about the yellow golf balls?

What about the orange golf balls?

Milton Fox
12-20-2017, 10:23am
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/05/78/78/05787844005db030d2d05b527cb254d9--tree-woman-mother-earth.jpg

Doesnt matter who is on the inside....

FasterTraffic
12-20-2017, 11:44am
Residents, led by real estate agent Trae Daniel, who moved into the neighborhood 14 years ago, have made four demands of the city. They include: removing the trees; building a 6-foot privacy wall for residents who want it; installing netting or something similar to prevent errant golf balls from flying into residents' yards; and planting new trees similar to those seen along other parts of the course.

...or just leave the trees which probably do that right now. :confused5:

Actually, based on the look of the backyard in the photo, the trees need to stay.

mrvette
12-20-2017, 2:05pm
I get A mazed and ASS-TONE-DEAD by those liberals, every damn time.....


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Loco Vette
12-20-2017, 2:52pm
Actually, based on the look of the backyard in the photo, the trees need to stay.

But if I was the homeowner I would damn sure be after the golf course to clean up the mess those things made!

Bill
12-20-2017, 3:17pm
But if I was the homeowner I would damn sure be after the golf course to clean up the mess those things made!

The homeowner is welcome to trim all the branches that encroach on his property. In fact, I bet if the homeowners had asked nicely, rather than pulling the race card, they could have gotten the golf course to trim those trees at the golf course's expense.

Loco Vette
12-20-2017, 3:51pm
But if I was the homeowner I would damn sure be after the golf course to clean up the mess those things made!

The homeowner is welcome to trim all the branches that encroach on his property. In fact, I bet if the homeowners had asked nicely, rather than pulling the race card, they could have gotten the golf course to trim those trees at the golf course's expense.

However they cleaned it up would be good by me. If I had that mess in my back yard due to someone else's idea of landscaping, I would have "started asking nicely" a long time ago, and I am willing to bet someone did.