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DAB
12-15-2017, 4:41pm
local guy is selling a M1 Garand for $680. have not seen it, wouldn't know what to look for anyway. but that sounds pretty cheap for a M1.

thoughts?

StaticCling
12-15-2017, 4:55pm
Arthur, very cool, but that's an M1 Carbine. Nice P38!


DAB, $680 is a STEAL for a Garand. I would imagine it may have issues for that price. Even if it's tired, it's still probably worth it for that price. Parts are readily available as are barrels, if that one is south of cheese.

OddBall
12-15-2017, 6:30pm
$680 isn't bad. Assuming the rifle is in good condition. Some folks will pay double that.

69camfrk
12-15-2017, 6:32pm
Arthur, very cool, but that's an M1 Carbine. Nice P38!


DAB, $680 is a STEAL for a Garand. I would imagine it may have issues for that price. Even if it's tired, it's still probably worth it for that price. Parts are readily available as are barrels, if that one is south of cheese.

I agree. A Garand with documentation ie:CMP is well worth the money. For that price, there is probably pretty good throat and muzzle wear. I would also hesitate to guess that it is not all date coded. Unlike Russian or German rifles, the Garand is not serial number matched between components. What one would be looking for is date coding for a matching rifle. That said, if it is a good shooter, and groups ok, the price is definitely right, especially if the stock is decent. Cool thing is, they have already been shot plenty, so to the range you go to enjoy that satisfying "ping" after the 8th round is gone.:seasix:

Chuck A
12-15-2017, 7:28pm
that looks exactly like the rifle we used in boot camp, back in 82

JRD77VET
12-15-2017, 7:39pm
local guy is selling a M1 Garand for $680. have not seen it, wouldn't know what to look for anyway. but that sounds pretty cheap for a M1.

thoughts?

Decent price and enough parts are readily available to fix anything.

Buy it NOW !!!!!

JRD77VET
12-15-2017, 7:44pm
I agree. A Garand with documentation ie:CMP is well worth the money. For that price, there is probably pretty good throat and muzzle wear. I would also hesitate to guess that it is not all date coded. Unlike Russian or German rifles, the Garand is not serial number matched between components. What one would be looking for is date coding for a matching rifle. That said, if it is a good shooter, and groups ok, the price is definitely right, especially if the stock is decent. Cool thing is, they have already been shot plenty, so to the range you go to enjoy that satisfying "ping" after the 8th round is gone.:seasix:

CMP documents add a minimum of $500 to the price now.

Doug,
Don't worry about "matching numbers" on a Garand unless you are buying collector grade.

Receiver manufacturers are Winchester, Springfield, Harrington and Richardson plus International Harvester.

Winchesters bring the most money and as a group, are the least accurate.

FasterTraffic
12-15-2017, 7:59pm
If I found a lamp with a genie inside, one of my wishes would be for some quality arms maker to start manufacturing brand new M1 Garand and M1903A3 rifles to their original spec.

99 pewtercoupe
12-15-2017, 8:02pm
local guy is selling a M1 Garand for $680. have not seen it, wouldn't know what to look for anyway. but that sounds pretty cheap for a M1.

thoughts?

You will shoot your eye out kid. :lol:

JRD77VET
12-15-2017, 8:05pm
If I found a lamp with a genie inside, one of my wishes would be for some quality arms maker to start manufacturing brand new M1 Garand and M1903A3 rifles to their original spec.

I would much rather fire a full 20 round box of 180 grain .300 win mags out of my Ruger MK II on a bench than five shots out of a 1903A3 ( even standing )

The '03A3 is one of the most punishing rifles I've ever shot. ( stock was designed to maximize wood instead of comfortable shooting )

FasterTraffic
12-15-2017, 8:25pm
I would much rather fire a full 20 round box of 180 grain .300 win mags out of my Ruger MK II on a bench than five shots out of a 1903A3 ( even standing )

The '03A3 is one of the most punishing rifles I've ever shot. ( stock was designed to maximize wood instead of comfortable shooting )

Really? I like the M1903A3. It's been a while but I don't recall feeling punished. The firearm that beat me up the most was a Model 1897 Trench Gun.

JRD77VET
12-15-2017, 8:30pm
Really? I like the M1903A3. It's been a while but I don't recall feeling punished. The firearm that beat me up the most was a Model 1897 Trench Gun.

:yesnod: Even with my canvas shooting jacket it took all the fun out of it.

Maybe it had an earlier stock on it instead of the A3 but it hurt. And I like big guns.

RedLS1GTO
12-15-2017, 8:31pm
The price of Garands depends entirely on the pedigree. $680 is a good price for a non WWII era mixed parts rifle. Could be a great buy if it'something special.

Do you at least have a serial number? That alone could at least ballpark a value range.

Love my Garands. :yesnod:

RedLS1GTO
12-15-2017, 8:33pm
...and I love shooting my m1903. :shrug:

JRD77VET
12-15-2017, 8:36pm
...and I love shooting my m1903. :shrug:

They are a beautiful rifle and if I owned one, it would be a safe queen.

RedLS1GTO
12-15-2017, 8:41pm
They are a beautiful rifle and if I owned one, it would be a safe queen.

My 1906 manufactured '03 and my correct 1942 Springfield Garand. The 1903 is an arsenal 1942 rebarrel and stock. The bayonet is a 1942 as well.

DAB, my vote is always yes for a Garand.

JRD77VET
12-15-2017, 8:53pm
Light wood is IH , dark wood is Springfield

I added govt match sights to the IH and used it for NRA High Power matches. It shoots great.

markids77
12-15-2017, 9:25pm
Douglas... shoot it if the owner will allow. If it groups within 4 inches at 100 yards it is a good deal and can be made to shoot much better. It would be nice (at the price) if the wood and metal were not fuzzy or rusty.

DAB
12-15-2017, 9:35pm
I have a nice pistol on order, my eyes aren’t that great, so an old peep sight rifle that I know nothing about just doesn’t call to me. I shoot what I own, including my 1914 vintage 1911 pistol (5 digit SN). So someone else can enjoy this.

JRD77VET
12-15-2017, 9:46pm
Your going to pass up an excellent shooting rifle that has a great history and is a pleasure to shoot.

It's easy to reload for and if your state allows semi autos, a great big game hunting rifle.

I hope you reconsider but final choice is yours.

RedLS1GTO
12-15-2017, 9:58pm
I shoot what I own...

Garands are great to shoot. I shoot all of mine, including the 1 in the case.

DAB
12-15-2017, 10:03pm
I have a pile of .30-06 ammo. About 900 rounds when I finish reloading it all.

I’ll sleep on it.

JRD77VET
12-15-2017, 10:24pm
I have a pile of .30-06 ammo. About 900 rounds when I finish reloading it all.

I’ll sleep on it.

Plus, if the SHTF, it will be extremely effective. When the 5.56 was being considered, they had to lower the penetration to one side of a battle helmet from the previous thru both sides of the .30-06

DAB
12-15-2017, 10:28pm
Almost all 180 grain. :dance:

RedLS1GTO
12-16-2017, 8:51am
Almost all 180 grain. :dance:

Make sure that you do some research to make sure your loads are Garand friendly. There is a lot of info to be found on this subject. :yesnod:

Jeff '79
12-16-2017, 9:01am
Should you buy one?
Personally, I wouldn't...
What's the point?
You'll shoot it 50 times, at the most, and then it'll sit there collecting dust.
Or maybe not.

StaticCling
12-16-2017, 9:10am
I have a pile of .30-06 ammo. About 900 rounds when I finish reloading it all.

I’ll sleep on it.

FYI, load the ammo to 30 US/M2 Ball .Gov specs and not full house ought six loads. Consensus, at least what I have read in the past, Commercial 30.06 loads can damage the operating rod. I believe there is a way to mitigate that with newer parts though, perhaps someone else can clarify...

69camfrk
12-16-2017, 9:29am
FYI, load the ammo to 30 US/M2 Ball .Gov specs and not full house ought six loads. Consensus, at least what I have read in the past, Commercial 30.06 loads can damage the operating rod. I believe there is a way to mitigate that with newer parts though, perhaps someone else can clarify...

You can change out the gas block to one that is compatible with commercial ammo. The receiver also stands to crack under full pressure loads too. There is plenty of M2 ball out there though.

VITE1
12-16-2017, 9:38am
FYI, load the ammo to 30 US/M2 Ball .Gov specs and not full house ought six loads. Consensus, at least what I have read in the past, Commercial 30.06 loads can damage the operating rod. I believe there is a way to mitigate that with newer parts though, perhaps someone else can clarify...

:iagree:

I have found there is a lot of ammo available for the M1 Garand on line at decent prices.

To the OP ,
Can you take it to the range to test fire it? If you can do that. Some Garands have what they call 7th round jam. I had it. It was a minor fix.

RedLS1GTO
12-16-2017, 9:42am
Should you buy one?
Personally, I wouldn't...
What's the point?
You'll shoot it 50 times, at the most, and then it'll sit there collecting dust.
Or maybe not.

Given your passion for investments, the stock market, etc. I have 1 great reason for you. You'll never lose money on a Garand at this price. If the history and fun of it don't sell you on it, just look at the numbers.

Same goes for the ammo.

DAB, if you don't buy it. Send it to me. Unless something is bad wrong, I will. (and yes, I'm serious) :seasix:

Jeff '79
12-16-2017, 9:45am
Given your passion for investments, the stock market, etc. I have 1 great reason for you. You'll never lose money on a Garand at this price.

Same goes for the ammo.

Damn good point.
But, there a millions out there.
Do they really increase in value if they are mutts, as opposed to date matching specimens?

DAB
12-16-2017, 9:48am
Given your passion for investments, the stock market, etc. I have 1 great reason for you. You'll never lose money on a Garand at this price. If the history and fun of it don't sell you on it, just look at the numbers.

Same goes for the ammo.

DAB, if you don't buy it. Send it to me. Unless something is bad wrong, I will. (and yes, I'm serious) :seasix:

I’ll PM you the contact in a bit.

RedLS1GTO
12-16-2017, 9:57am
Do they really increase in value if they are mutts, as opposed to date matching specimens?

Yep.

Not as much as "correct" but they will still go up, and at the lower price will sell quicker to a larger group.

I've never come even close to losing money on a Garand at this price point.

allthrottleandsomebottle
12-16-2017, 10:11am
$830 in this neck of the woods for decent one.....

DAB
12-16-2017, 10:48am
Given your passion for investments, the stock market, etc. I have 1 great reason for you. You'll never lose money on a Garand at this price. If the history and fun of it don't sell you on it, just look at the numbers.

Same goes for the ammo.

DAB, if you don't buy it. Send it to me. Unless something is bad wrong, I will. (and yes, I'm serious) :seasix:

PM sent.

Jeff '79
12-16-2017, 10:53am
Yep.

Not as much as "correct" but they will still go up, and at the lower price will sell quicker to a larger group.

I've never come even close to losing money on a Garand at this price point.

Nice... :seasix:
As an aside, after shipping , FFL fees, and any other misc. repairs, I would have never thought that.

DAB
12-16-2017, 10:59am
saw an article this morning about 2 guys arrested for having illegal AR-15 type rifles in CA. and also 2400 rounds of ammo.

sounds like a fun day at the range to me.

me?

i have a round of ammo....or two. with a few more due for delivery today. :dance:

Dave
12-16-2017, 11:54pm
How much is the CMP selling them for these days?

69camfrk
12-17-2017, 7:49am
How much is the CMP selling them for these days?

M1 Garand - Civilian Marksmanship ProgramCivilian Marksmanship Program (http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/)

erickpl
12-18-2017, 11:21am
I have a 1942 Springfield from March 1942 (based on S/N).
I also have a 1944 Springfield from May 1944 (based on S/N).

Haven't tried to trace any history, but I like to think the May 44 build was helpful in Normandy... :)

Both get shot. :)

DAB
12-18-2017, 11:31am
just got an email from CDNN sports, advertising various guns. included was a SW MP15 for 499. :faint:

already have one, don't need 2. but that's pretty affordable for a nice AR15 copy.

JRD77VET
12-18-2017, 8:47pm
Good price :yesnod: Only negative aspect of the MP15 is no forward assist

DAB
12-18-2017, 9:24pm
Good price :yesnod: Only negative aspect of the MP15 is no forward assist

My old one has it.

JRD77VET
12-18-2017, 9:37pm
My old one has it.

Mine doesn't :confused5:

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/off-topic/112583-ar-15-related-question-gun-enthusiasts-here-2.html#post1593741

DAB
12-18-2017, 9:44pm
Mine:

JRD77VET
12-18-2017, 9:48pm
nutz ( but good for you )