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lspencer534
11-02-2016, 8:16am
:leaving:
Woodturning Tumbling bowl - short edit - YouTube
Dear Santa,
I'd like a bigger lathe for Christmas. Budget about $8,000.
:faint::DAB:
Jobaka
11-02-2016, 11:25am
Very cool. That's a lot of prep for one bowl.
trying to find a stable, one piece bowl blank of nice hardwood is not easy, nor cheap. much easier to take already stable dimensional lumber and glue it up to whatever size bowl blank you want.
Black94lt1
11-02-2016, 12:27pm
So help me understand one detail, it appears he flipped the bowl around before hollowing out the middle, why is that, is it too hard to work the bottom edge when it is close to the lathe itself (attached to the chuck)? Seems like an unnecessary step but I've not used a lathe in 30 years
So help me understand one detail, it appears he flipped the bowl around before hollowing out the middle, why is that, is it too hard to work the bottom edge when it is close to the lathe itself (attached to the chuck)? Seems like an unnecessary step but I've not used a lathe in 30 years
he did the bottom of the bowl first, and created a cavity there for the lathe chuck to be able to grab onto. i have a similar set of chucks. it has 4 curved jaws that can expand outwards to grab into the recess you make.
that way there are no screw holes on the bottom from having to attach it to a faceplate.
that way you can have a pleasing curve on the bottom of the bowl, and not be limited to a flat bottom.
Black94lt1
11-02-2016, 3:54pm
he did the bottom of the bowl first, and created a cavity there for the lathe chuck to be able to grab onto. i have a similar set of chucks. it has 4 curved jaws that can expand outwards to grab into the recess you make.
that way there are no screw holes on the bottom from having to attach it to a faceplate.
that way you can have a pleasing curve on the bottom of the bowl, and not be limited to a flat bottom.
That makes sense, I never considered that it was a friction mount into that recess he made
Fasglas
11-02-2016, 4:54pm
I never realized DAB could make these bowls so quickly...
LOL
Gorgeous work, though. :seasix:
Not me in that video.
Likely took 4 days to make that.
Jeff '79
11-02-2016, 5:14pm
Ya, but can you make me one of these?
8909
Ya, but can you make me one of these?
8909
sure......
just need a new lathe and a pile of wood and lots of time.
:faint::DAB:
it's pretty, and shows his mastery of turning, but how useful it that?
i prefer to make things that have some utility to them, not just art.
OddBall
11-02-2016, 5:21pm
Can't be DAB....
...not enough clamps :D
Jeff '79
11-02-2016, 5:23pm
it's pretty, and shows his mastery of turning, but how useful it that?
i prefer to make things that have some utility to them, not just art.
Put some lighting into it and you have a grand lighting implement for a massive foyer.
That would be useful.
borrowed from another forum that i post at now and then.
reinforces what i've said before, people like the idea of handcrafted items, but they don't like the idea of paying a fair price for handcrafted items.
https://youtu.be/m9hIXiM-yrY
Fasglas
11-02-2016, 5:40pm
For the sake of curiosity,
What would the bowl in the OP cost?
(Ballpark? )
For the sake of curiosity,
What would the bowl in the OP cost?
(Ballpark? )
http://liveeastofeden.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/one-million-dollars.jpg
For the sake of curiosity,
What would the bowl in the OP cost?
(Ballpark? )
looks like 10-12" diameter, 5-6" high. mix of walnut, cherry, maple. about 6-8 board feet of lumber when you start, say $8-$10/BF (walnut is the most expensive of the mix), so you are starting with about $80 of raw lumber.
one rule of thumb i've come across is material cost x 4 = final cost. but doing that doesn't make you much money. for that item, i'd price it out at between 6 to 8 times material cost, depending on who was asking and how much i wanted to do it.
from a recent failed project, i know that i cannot currently make a bowl that size, my lathe isn't big enough. see above for plea to Santa for a bigger lathe (already have the shop wired for 240V, 1 phase for a larger lathe.)
:DAB:
99 pewtercoupe
11-02-2016, 5:55pm
borrowed from another forum that i post at now and then.
reinforces what i've said before, people like the idea of handcrafted items, but they don't like the idea of paying a fair price for handcrafted items.
https://youtu.be/m9hIXiM-yrY
True dat
My brother does custom cabinets and usually the first meeting with a potential customer will determine whether they really want custom made solid wood or something from Lowes
I'm not putting down store bought cabinets if that's what your budget allows. I know I can't afford my brothers work
MrPeabody
11-02-2016, 5:56pm
borrowed from another forum that i post at now and then.
reinforces what i've said before, people like the idea of handcrafted items, but they don't like the idea of paying a fair price for handcrafted items.
https://youtu.be/m9hIXiM-yrY
:rofl::rofl:
The guy who I had install my kitchen also builds cabinets. Honestly, I've never seen any he built, so I don't know how good he is. He went into a little rant when he came over to give me an estimate about how come people don't call him first instead of buying pre-fab cabinets like I did. When the job was all done I asked him what he would have charged me to build the cabinets I bought. He said 10-12K. I paid 5K for what I bought. I'm sure his may have been better, but not that much better. And certainly not affordable for my budget.
True dat
My brother does custom cabinets and usually the first meeting with a potential customer will determine whether they really want custom made solid wood or something from Lowes
I'm not putting down store bought cabinets if that's what your budget allows. I know I can't afford my brothers work
We built our kitchen 3 years ago. 11x16. 44 drawers, 13 lazy Susan's, 30" deep L shaped island. Total cost of lumber and hardware was about $7,500. With my new shop, it would take 4-6 months to build. If you wanted one like it, we'd start talking north of $80k.
:DAB:
99 pewtercoupe
11-02-2016, 7:47pm
We built our kitchen 3 years ago. 11x16. 44 drawers, 13 lazy Susan's, 30" deep L shaped island. Total cost of lumber and hardware was about $7,500. With my new shop, it would take 4-6 months to build. If you wanted one like it, we'd start talking north of $80k.
:DAB:
I know that even with the investments he has made over the years in tools and equipment that you are still looking at a 50 to60K investment in cabinets for most of the new homes he does for builders
Fasglas
11-03-2016, 12:14am
looks like 10-12" diameter, 5-6" high. mix of walnut, cherry, maple. about 6-8 board feet of lumber when you start, say $8-$10/BF (walnut is the most expensive of the mix), so you are starting with about $80 of raw lumber.
one rule of thumb i've come across is material cost x 4 = final cost. but doing that doesn't make you much money. for that item, i'd price it out at between 6 to 8 times material cost, depending on who was asking and how much i wanted to do it.
from a recent failed project, i know that i cannot currently make a bowl that size, my lathe isn't big enough. see above for plea to Santa for a bigger lathe (already have the shop wired for 240V, 1 phase for a larger lathe.)
:DAB:
Hmmmm... I guessed at 4 - 5 hundred. Not too far off.
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