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Old 02-27-2023, 10:08pm   #81
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Walk him outside, kneel him down and cap him. Future criminal averted.
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These days a lot of bad kids are considered "learning disabled", and that makes them "special needs".

They are nothing more than kids that can get their way because they dont feel like behaving/following the rules, and has a line of liberal counselors/psychiatrists babying them and labeling them.
Yes, drug 'em, coddle 'em, make someone else deal with 'em...

When my teacher told my parents I might have ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) and some pharmaceuticals might help, Dad called it "daydreaming in class" and cured it with a single application of his old Marine Corps belt.

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Hulking 6'6" boy, 17, who 'viciously beat his teaching aide unconscious' is held on $1 MILLION bond, will be charged as an adult and faces up to 30 years in prison - after being arrested THREE times for battery in 2019

Brendan Depa, 17, can be named for the first time after the Seventh Judicial Court of Florida ruled that he would be transferred to adult court
He is facing an aggravated battery charge after he allegedly attacked Joan Naydich, 57, at Mantanzas High School on February 21
The teenager 'threw the teaching assistant onto the floor before repeatedly punching and kicking her '

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Published: 08:27 EST, 28 February 2023 | Updated: 10:35 EST, 28 February 2023

A teenage boy accused of punching and kicking his teaching assistant in a row over a Nintendo Switch will be charged as an adult - after being arrested for battery three times in 2019.

Brendan Depa, 17, can be named for the first time after the Seventh Judicial Court of Florida ruled that he would be transferred to adult court and is currently being held on a $1million bond according to court documents.

He is facing an aggravated battery charge - a felony - after he allegedly attacked Joan Naydich, 57, at Matanzas High School on February 21.

The 6'6' and 270lb student was caught on camera viciously beating the 'humble' mother-of-two until she was unconscious. Flagler County Sheriff Rick Staly warning it 'could have been a homicide'.

He is seen knocking Naydich to the ground before kicking and punching the unconscious woman at least 15 times in the back and head.
Brendan Depa, 17, can be named for the first time after the Seventh Judicial Court of Florida ruled that he would be transferred to adult court

Those convicted of aggravated battery of a school board official in Florida can face up to 30 years in jail for the first-degree felony.

Depa has also been ordered not to contact the teaching assistant by the court, and he will appear for his arraignment on March 6.

Documents seen by DailyMail.com show Depa was charged with battery three times in 2019 before the attack this month.

He previously completed a Department of Juvenile Justice program. Sheriff Staly supported the decision to charge him as an adult in the latest incident.


According to the state attorney's office, Depa 'did actually and intentionally touch or strike (the victim) against the will of (her) and in doing so used a deadly weapon, and/or intentionally or knowingly caused great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement.'

Sheriff Staly said: 'This student is just six months shy of age 18, and it was also a brutal attack on this teacher. Fortunately, this didn't result in a fatality.

'This could be a homicide we are talking about.'

Naydich has since been released from hospital and is recovering at home following the savage beating.
This attack was lucky number FOUR for this kid.
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I watched the video and the kid was saying he wanted to go home or back to class and didn't have the time to go to jail. Like it was simply no big deal.
In a perfect world, he would be publicly hung in the town square after being flogged and tarred and feathered. I'd settle for the electric chair, though. He needs to be put down.
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When I was in school, 70s and 80s, those who could not behave were put in a special class, my middle school had an out-building for the class, we on the inside called it 'The Boot'.

Kids were placed in this class for behavioral issues, not apptitude deficiencies, but they were rarely taken out, most did 6th, 7th and 8th grade in the class.

Problem is they all become deficient in studies, as the class is taught to the lowest capable students.
IMO, lives were ruined, as the class corrected NOTHING, it just isolated them, and got them labelled by the entire school.

Yet another social issue, mishandled by liberals, who have no commitment to correcting it, just allowing it to mushroom, while asking for more monies each year while stating it has gotten worse, and larger.
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When I was in school, 70s and 80s, those who could not behave were put in a special class, my middle school had an out-building for the class, we on the inside called it 'The Boot'.

Kids were placed in this class for behavioral issues, not apptitude deficiencies, but they were rarely taken out, most did 6th, 7th and 8th grade in the class.

Problem is they all become deficient in studies, as the class is taught to the lowest capable students.
IMO, lives were ruined, as the class corrected NOTHING, it just isolated them, and got them labelled by the entire school.

Yet another social issue, mishandled by liberals, who have no commitment to correcting it, just allowing it to mushroom, while asking for more monies each year while stating it has gotten worse, and larger.

I have seen that before, by getting the misfits out of the regular classes those other kids that wanted to learn were not held back as you said by "those who could not behave were put in a special class,"
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He will NEVER spend 30 years in prison on this rap.

2-3 years tops...where he can make contacts and become a better criminal.

As far as I'm concerned, the security officer (marine?) was derelict in his duty. This animal should have been taken out during the attack. At that moment...the action was 100% justified. To take him out now, is vengeance and will never happen legally.
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When I was in school, 70s and 80s, those who could not behave were put in a special class, my middle school had an out-building for the class, we on the inside called it 'The Boot'.

Kids were placed in this class for behavioral issues, not apptitude deficiencies, but they were rarely taken out, most did 6th, 7th and 8th grade in the class.

Problem is they all become deficient in studies, as the class is taught to the lowest capable students.
IMO, lives were ruined, as the class corrected NOTHING, it just isolated them, and got them labelled by the entire school.

Yet another social issue, mishandled by liberals, who have no commitment to correcting it, just allowing it to mushroom, while asking for more monies each year while stating it has gotten worse, and larger.
What's your solution? If a kid is a behavioral problem, and it can't be corrected by the parents, and it persists even after school discipline (detention, suspension, whatever) has been applied, what choice does the school have? It's not fair to the kids who want to learn, or the teachers who want to teach those kids who want to learn, to bog down classes with recurring discipline problems. Separate them. I'd just say that once you pull a kid out and rubber room him, there ought to be some kind of process for letting the kid prove he's no longer violent or a discipline problem. Of course, that depends on what they've done. Violent assaults like this kid has done? He should NEVER be allowed around the rest of the student body. He's too dangerous, obviously.
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He will NEVER spend 30 years in prison on this rap.

2-3 years tops...where he can make contacts and become a better criminal.

As far as I'm concerned, the security officer (marine?) was derelict in his duty. This animal should have been taken out during the attack. At that moment...the action was 100% justified. To take him out now, is vengeance and will never happen legally.
I doubt the Marine was there in a security capacity. More likely doing recruiting duties. As said before, he probably took some time to assess the situation because he could have just as easily been arrested and charged for stopping the feral animal. Consider how a lib prosecutor would tear into him given that he's had training when it comes to deadly force.
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To hell with ALL these "special classes" from troublemaker students. They cost money, create lawsuits and don't achieve anything. The best answer is to boot the losers out of school for good. It's not like they're planning to use any education in the first place! If they're so tough they are violent, then set them free to prove it in the real world.
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What's your solution? If a kid is a behavioral problem, and it can't be corrected by the parents, and it persists even after school discipline (detention, suspension, whatever) has been applied, what choice does the school have? It's not fair to the kids who want to learn, or the teachers who want to teach those kids who want to learn, to bog down classes with recurring discipline problems. Separate them. I'd just say that once you pull a kid out and rubber room him, there ought to be some kind of process for letting the kid prove he's no longer violent or a discipline problem. Of course, that depends on what they've done. Violent assaults like this kid has done? He should NEVER be allowed around the rest of the student body. He's too dangerous, obviously.
I do not have the time to post a detailed solution.
What is being done now is not working.
My solution would include accountability for school systems, and the admission that schools may need help outside the system.
I am 100% with you, there needs to be a separation until behaviour is corrected, not sure how easily that is done--there appears to be little effort from the system to try to reform and place back in the system, and I believe fixing the problem is not as profitable as blaming the child and growing the system.

This all boils down to parenting, which almost all in special classes suffer from.
Until you make ALL parents accountable for their children, the schools and other systems, cannot do your job.

The bigger problem is that all things in society NEVER get fixed, the continue to grow, and one party does all they can to ensure such, as they control the schools, social services and their affiliates.
If you never fix a problem, and stategically allow the problem to grow, you will get more money and more controls every year.
This theft is aided by the community leaders and activists who do ZERO to help solve the problems, but expend all energies stating the system is deficient and underfunded, and the enemy is those who refuse to give us blank checks.
The socialists own 100% of this problem, but take 0.00% responsibility.
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I doubt the Marine was there in a security capacity. More likely doing recruiting duties. As said before, he probably took some time to assess the situation because he could have just as easily been arrested and charged for stopping the feral animal. Consider how a lib prosecutor would tear into him given that he's had training when it comes to deadly force.
And there lies the problem.
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When I was in school, 70s and 80s, those who could not behave were put in a special class, my middle school had an out-building for the class, we on the inside called it 'The Boot'.

Kids were placed in this class for behavioral issues, not apptitude deficiencies, but they were rarely taken out, most did 6th, 7th and 8th grade in the class.

Problem is they all become deficient in studies, as the class is taught to the lowest capable students.
IMO, lives were ruined, as the class corrected NOTHING, it just isolated them, and got them labelled by the entire school.

Yet another social issue, mishandled by liberals, who have no commitment to correcting it, just allowing it to mushroom, while asking for more monies each year while stating it has gotten worse, and larger.
I took my son out of public schools due to teaching only to the slowest dumbass in the classes. His "advanced" classes were 1 sheet of double sided work a month. He was never going to be able to achieve success being held back.. And yes he would get in trouble for reading ahead and doing work in advance. Dumbasses

He almost was suspended because he was accused of "outright lies". He reads incredibly fast and teacher called him a liar for going to the library once a day. I may have said some bad words over this to several staff members.


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A little FYI for all (if you didnt already know).

These days a lot of bad kids are considered "learning disabled", and that makes them "special needs".

They are nothing more than kids that can get their way because they dont feel like behaving/following the rules, and has a line of liberal counselors/psychiatrists babying them and labeling them.
There was more than a few that fell into this category at my son's elementary school... I may have told more than one parent their child wasn't learning diasbled but a little bastard that needed an ass whooping. Oh little Johnny acts up because he's special...
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Truth came out today that he was lying on top of the attack. The woman DID NOT take away his toy. In addition, his Mommy has a great paying job, so his attack can't be blamed on the goold old "poor single Mom" excuse!
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Truth came out today that he was lying on top of the attack. The woman DID NOT take away his toy. In addition, his Mommy has a great paying job, so his attack can't be blamed on the goold old "poor single Mom" excuse!
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Parenting was fairly consistent prior to the 60s. It was as if there was one standard. Then the template was blown apart and there began to be "free range" kids doing their thing, in the same school as the well disciplined kids. Witnessing the wild children not get punished for their actions began to have the good kids questioning their own upbringing and some swearing they'd never raise their kids the way they were raised. In no time there was a generation of brats reaching adulthood with NO ability to raise their children and here we are. It can't be undone without SOMEONE or SOME ENTITY disciplining these kids at a very early age. The shitty parents will never allow that and so on we go.
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Latest news is that this "special needs" person will be tried as an adult here in Florida....as for the Marine, being a recruiter at a school doesn't buy him out of the reputation as "running towards the violence". This cretin had murderous intent.....ever seen a Marine's eval form ? Its all about being the pointy end of the spear.
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Parenting was fairly consistent prior to the 60s. It was as if there was one standard. Then the template was blown apart and there began to be "free range" kids doing their thing, in the same school as the well disciplined kids. Witnessing the wild children not get punished for their actions began to have the good kids questioning their own upbringing and some swearing they'd never raise their kids the way they were raised. In no time there was a generation of brats reaching adulthood with NO ability to raise their children and here we are. It can't be undone without SOMEONE or SOME ENTITY disciplining these kids at a very early age. The shitty parents will never allow that and so on we go.
Dude...you've been spot on lately. You taking vitamins or somethin"?
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Now they admit he had a number of violent crimes on his record already. When they walked him to the police car he tried to spit of the injured woman, called her a racist name and promised her he would kill her when she he got back.

He should have never made it to the car.
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To hell with ALL these "special classes" from troublemaker students. They cost money, create lawsuits and don't achieve anything. The best answer is to boot the losers out of school for good. It's not like they're planning to use any education in the first place! If they're so tough they are violent, then set them free to prove it in the real world.
I think the Italians got their school system right. School is compulsory until 8th grade. After that, high school is by choice, the students have to test to get in to the better schools, and by the time they graduate their degree is the equivalent of our AA degree. It keeps the violent kids, trouble makers, etc... out of the classroom so as to let those who want to learn do what they need to. Those who drop out or don't place either go into the work force or see if family will support them. Most times, the fathers will make the boys go to work with them (especially if they have their own business) and the girls work with mom either at a job or doing domestic things around the house.
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