For you Christians

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

The first five books did not contain a thorough explanation of all things, as Heston had to come down from that mountain to finish the movie.

LOL.

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by SurfnSun

Ah yes, the ol big bang. I have said it a ton of times on these forums and no one ever challenges it with any coherent argument....


Go blow something up and in the process create order, life, rational thought, and morality all at once.


Not going to happen. Ever seen a pile of bricks and wire get exploded into a perfectly functional wired and plumbed building? Of course not. But that's the big bang. Hence why I said go look at a single strand of DNA. It ends the ridiculous notion of big bang.

It takes exponentially more faith to believe that everything you see today came from a cosmic explosion starting with space dust, that can't be explained, and energy, that also can't be explained.

Atheist scientists try to bury their argument with time, but that doesn't work either.

I just posted a video of how I agree with you there. I don't believe Big Bang is the answer.

I also agree that time doesn't really factor in the way everyone wants it to.

But I don't agree that an all powerful sentient being is the answer either.

[DAB]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

But not one that I'm willing to believe without actual proof.

Originally Posted by SurfnSun

What proof are you looking for?

i'd also like to know what kind of proof of God would you accept?

no point in offering you "proof" if you are going to dismiss what is offered out of hand as "not good enough". not interested in wasting my or your time.

so???

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by DAB

i'd also like to know what kind of proof of God would you accept?

no point in offering you "proof" if you are going to dismiss what is offered out of hand as "not good enough". not interested in wasting my or your time.

so???

It's a good question. The answer of which would be similar to your question. What proof would you need to change your belief to, there is no God?

Unfortunately, I don't know that there would be a single piece of proof that would make me believe a "God" exists. Maybe first contact with another species who kindly fills in our knowledge gaps...including universal creation.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

It's a good question. The answer of which would be similar to your question. What proof would you need to change your belief to, there is no God?

Unfortunately, I don't know that there would be a single piece of proof that would make me believe a "God" exists. Maybe first contact with another species who kindly fills in our knowledge gaps...including universal creation.

Do you believe that Jesus of Nazareth was a real person?

[WydGlydJim]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

No. I think it's just a passage from a book. A book written by men translated from century to century and language from language. Additionally, the bible isn't the greatest source of creationism simply because of the sheer volume of content that was omitted from it. It's like being handed a history book and having several chapters removed from it.

It is not merely a passage from a book.......it is a prophecy........it is a verified fact that it was written nearly 800 years before Jesus was born. It is a verified fact it was written about Jesus. It is a verified fact that Jesus walked the earth....I don't care about all of the other things about creationism, the universe, plants, and animals, etc, etc,..........just explain how that one prophecy happened. See people keep saying they want proof, then when presented, they simple discount it. You don't want it. that's fine. Thats your choice, but quit asking for proof, and just admit you have rejected proof.

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[DAB]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

It's a good question. The answer of which would be similar to your question. What proof would you need to change your belief to, there is no God?

Unfortunately, I don't know that there would be a single piece of proof that would make me believe a "God" exists. Maybe first contact with another species who kindly fills in our knowledge gaps...including universal creation.

ah, but as the Bible tells me:

John 6:39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

i'm securely in God's hands, my name was written in the Book of Life before the world began. so nothing can separate me from God. (see Romans 8:38).

so there is no supposed "proof" that will undo my belief.

so, what kind of proof would you accept.

[LATB]

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[Don Rickles]

Originally Posted by jw38

Wrong. No Earthly man or structure can forgive anyone of their sins. There is no trick to get out of sinning, but life is actually quite easy...

wrong

"The last door to the right is called the "Holy Door" (Porta Santa) and they are only open for "The Jubilee Year" (every 25 years by the Pope). Passing through the Holy Door in Rome is actually mini-pilgrimage and full forgiveness is obtained."

[SurfnSun]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

wrong

"The last door to the right is called the "Holy Door" (Porta Santa) and they are only open for "The Jubilee Year" (every 25 years by the Pope). Passing through the Holy Door in Rome is actually mini-pilgrimage and full forgiveness is obtained."

so if you die in the years it’s closed, you go to hell. Well that sucks

[Don Rickles]

Originally Posted by SurfnSun

so if you die in the years it’s closed, you go to hell. Well that sucks

Not exactly.
You missed the point.
Read up about it! I was there, it was shut........











"wide open" for an Anj Jew jab

[SurfnSun]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

Not exactly.
You missed the point.
Read up about it! I was there, it was shut........











"wide open" for an Anj Jew jab

I’m still trying to figure out if you’re serious or trolling me.

Walk thru a man made door and go to heaven? Perhaps praying to a golden calf or just building a door here and leaving it open would be easier

[Don Rickles]

Originally Posted by SurfnSun

I’m still trying to figure out if you’re serious or trolling me.

Walk thru a man made door and go to heaven? Perhaps praying to a golden calf or just building a door here and leaving it open would be easier

Porta Santa

[Torqaholic]

A sane person who commits murder can supposedly go to heaven by repenting. If an insane person is so crazy that he can't repent perhaps the soul left them already? I don't know about that, but God does.

[jw38]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

wrong

"The last door to the right is called the "Holy Door" (Porta Santa) and they are only open for "The Jubilee Year" (every 25 years by the Pope). Passing through the Holy Door in Rome is actually mini-pilgrimage and full forgiveness is obtained."

Wrong. This is what Catholics believe, but it's not found anywhere in the Bible.

Now...what the Bible DOES say...

John 4:16 - Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Only Jesus can forgive you of your sins. This is why the Bible says, Acts 4:12 - “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved”

[SurfnSun]

Originally Posted by jw38

Wrong. This is what Catholics believe, but it's not found anywhere in the Bible.

Now...what the Bible DOES say...

John 4:16 - Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Only Jesus can forgive you of your sins. This is why the Bible says, Acts 4:12 - “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved”

Well the Pope is a man-made institution that has no biblical foundation either…so theres that.

[jw38]

Originally Posted by SurfnSun

Well the Pope is a man-made institution that has no biblical foundation either…so there that.

You are correct. Hence, my post.

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by LATB

Do you believe that Jesus of Nazareth was a real person?

Hard to say. Nobody in current times was alive when he was supposedly a person walking around, and the only knowledge of his existence comes from books authored by humans during that time in different languages translated with debatable accuracy.

Were scientists ever able to pull DNA from the Shroud of Turin?

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by WydGlydJim

It is not merely a passage from a book.......it is a prophecy........it is a verified fact that it was written nearly 800 years before Jesus was born. It is a verified fact it was written about Jesus. It is a verified fact that Jesus walked the earth....I don't care about all of the other things about creationism, the universe, plants, and animals, etc, etc,..........just explain how that one prophecy happened. See people keep saying they want proof, then when presented, they simple discount it. You don't want it. that's fine. Thats your choice, but quit asking for proof, and just admit you have rejected proof.

You sure?

Biblical scholars state: God wrote the Bible through 40 writers, possibly fewer or more depending on how one views the authorship identification in respective books (e.g., The Epistle to the Hebrews), in 66 books, across at least 1,500 years, and in both Near Eastern Ancient culture and the Greco-Roman culture of the first century.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bibl...the-bible.html